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I've been seeing these "why not federated " popping up here from time to time, so i figured I could make two suggestions (a suggestion and a question, really) that have been popping up in my mind as well.

Let me ask the question first, in this post, and make the suggestion on another post, to keep the discussion clean:

Wouldn't it be better to have the fediverse be a server only (like mail, or usenet - as federated as can be) and then have clientes like mastodon, lemmy, whatever... be just clientes to that server?

The post would have fields like author, date and time, subject or title, text resume, text content, image, link, video, x, y, z, ... Then clientes would fetch whatever they are interested in (maybe mastodon would focus on author, date, image and text resume, pixelfed on image, peertube on video, lemmy on all of them... a blog would fetch the author, the date, the title, possibly text resume to use as lead, and text content and display that as a blog entry...

Information could, then, just flow via jason, xml (xmpp, why not)

Maybe I'm being naive here, but would very much like to understand why.

Of course the server would authenticate and distribute to other servers and to clientes what they ask for.

The image is a little provocation, of course ;-)

This is just a random idea I had, and I'm curious what others think.

Has anyone ever considered potentially attempting a federated, anonymous imageboard/message board—something in the spirit of 4chan, 8chan, or Plebchan, but using ActivityPub or another decentralized protocol?

What technical, social, or legal obstacles would need to be overcome?

Would federation (like ActivityPub or something custom) actually help, or would it just replicate the same problems at scale?

I know these platforms have reputations that turn people off (and often for good reason), but I still think there's value in the format—especially for niche or "grey zone" communities that often get booted from mainstream platforms.

Plebchan already shows that decentralization can work in this space. It’s serverless, adminless, and built on the Plebbit protocol, which itself is a decentralized, peer-to-peer social media protocol. Plebchan just acts as a frontend for Plebbit, which uses IPFS for data distribution.

I’d honestly love to try building something like this myself, but I don’t have the dev skills or the time.

Still, I wonder:

Has anyone tried federating something like Plebchan or building an ActivityPub-compatible client like it?

What challenges would something like this face, both technically and socially?

Would there be room for such a project in the Fediverse, or would it be rejected outright due to associations?

Genuinely curious to hear others' thoughts.

Plebchan: https://plebchan.org/

Plebchan Github: https://github.com/plebbit/plebchan

Plebbit: https://plebbit.com/

Just a random thought that I had: what if there were a federated, Open-source, lyrics platform—something open and community-driven, where users could submit, edit, and annotate song lyrics, similar to how Mastodon or PeerTube works for social and video content?

In theory, it could even offer an API that centralized music platforms (Spotify, TIDAL, Deezer, Qobuz, etc.) might choose to tap into. Think of it as a libre lyrics backend with federation support.

I’d absolutely love to see or even contribute to something like this, but I don’t currently have the skills or energy to pull it off myself. Has anyone explored this idea before?

On another post, I shared a thought I've been having. Here's another one:

Would it be possible to create a platform for federated link share and discussion? That's one of the things I really miss - the possibility to discuss, with a group of like minded people, content I stumble upon on the internet.

The image is just another provocation, of course. ;-)

Is there any way to achieve the same level of anonymity on the Fediverse as 4chan offers?

(Random Thought That I had.)

Proposal:
Has anyone considered developing a federated, open-source alternative to platforms like:

Google Earth,

Magic Earth,

Google Maps,

Waze,

Here WeGo,

Sygic GPS,

OsmAnd,

etc.?

Imagine a decentralized platform where individuals and organizations can host, contribute, and share mapping, weather, navigation, geospatial data, etc. —fully in the spirit of the Fediverse.

Key Features Could Include:

• Decentralized hosting of map tiles, satellite imagery, and user-contributed data
• Federated sharing of points of interest, routes, and real-time traffic
• Privacy-focused navigation and offline capabilities
• Integration with existing open data sources (e.g., OpenStreetMap)
• Extensible with plugins for specialized uses (hiking, cycling, accessibility, etc.)

Why This Matters:
Current navigation and mapping platforms are largely centralized, raising concerns about privacy, data ownership, and censorship. A federated approach would empower communities, ensure data resilience, and foster innovation—much like Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, etc. have done for social media and video.

Personal Note:
I’d love to help build something like this, but I currently lack the time, expertise, and energy. Still, I wanted to float the idea and see if others in the Fediverse community are interested or already working on similar projects.

Open Questions for the Community:

• What technical hurdles would need to be addressed for federation (e.g., syncing map data, real-time updates)?
• Are there existing projects or protocols that could be extended for this purpose?

cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/11177574

Medienwissenschaftler Martin Andrees Vortrag auf der Dreikönigstagung in Zürich zur Monopolstellung von GAFAM (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple und Microsoft) und zu den Möglichkeiten die wir als Gesellschaft haben, etwas dagegen zu unternehmen.

I know world is not. I wanna make one but haven't rn.

🧮 Decentralization Scoring System (v1.0)

This scoring system evaluates how decentralized and self-hostable a platform is, based on four core metrics.

📊 Scoring Metrics (Total: 100 Points)

Top Provider User Share (30 points): Measures how many users are on the largest instance. Full points if <10%; 0 if >80%.
Top Provider Content Share (30 points): Measures how much content is hosted by the largest instance. Full points if <10%; 0 if >80%.
Ease of Self-Hosting: Server (20 points): Technical ease of running your own backend. Full points for Docker/simple setup with good docs.
Ease of Self-Hosting: User Interface (20 points): Availability and usability of clients. Full points for accessible, FOSS, multi-platform clients.

📋 Example Breakdown (Estimates)

📧 Email (2025)

• Top Provider User Share: Apple ≈ 53.67% → Score: 4.5/30
• Top Provider Content Share: Apple likely handles >50% of mail → Score: 4.5/30
• Self-Hosting: Server: Easy (Leverage email hosting services) → Score: 18/20
• Self-Hosting: Client: Easy (Thunderbird, K-9, etc.) → Score: 18/20

Total: 45/100

🐹 Lemmy (2025)

• Top Provider User Share: lemmy.world ≈ 37.17% → Score: 12/30
• Top Provider Content Share: lemmy.world likely hosts ~37% content → Score: 12/30
• Self-Hosting: Server: Easy (Docker, low resource) → Score: 18/20
• Self-Hosting: Client: Good FOSS apps, web UI → Score: 18/20

Total: 60/100

🐘 Mastodon (2025)

• Top Provider User Share: mastodon.social ≈ 42.7% → Score: 11/30
• Top Provider Content Share: mastodon.social ≈ 45–50% content → Score: 10/30
• Self-Hosting: Server: Docker setup, moderate difficulty → Score: 15/20
• Self-Hosting: Client: Strong ecosystem (Tusky, web, etc.) → Score: 19/20

Total: 55/100

🔵 Bluesky (2025)

• Top Provider User Share: bsky.social ≈ ~90%+ (very centralized) → Score: 0/30
• Top Provider Content Share: Nearly all content on bsky.social → Score: 0/30
• Self-Hosting: Server: PDS hosting possible but very niche → Score: 4/20
• Self-Hosting: Client: Mostly official client; some 3rd party → Score: 10/20

Total: 14/100

🟥 Reddit (2025)

• Top Provider User Share: Reddit ≈ 48.4% → Score: 0/30
• Top Provider Content Share: Reddit hosts a significant portion of user-generated content → Score: 0/30
• Self-Hosting: Server: Not self-hostable (proprietary platform) → Score: 0/20
• Self-Hosting: Client: Some unofficial clients available → Score: 3/20

Total: 3/100

How Scores are Calculated

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 How User/Content Share Scores Work

This measures how many users are on the largest provider (or instance).

• 100% (one provider): If one provider has all the users, it gets 0 points.
• No provider > 10%: If no provider has more than 10%, it gets full 30 points.
• Between 10% and 80%: Anything in between is scored on a linear scale.
• > 80%: If a provider has more than 80%, it gets 0 points.

📊 Formula:

Score = 30 × (1 - (TopProviderShare - 10%) / 70%)
…but only if TopProviderShare is between 10% and 80%.
If below 10%, full 30. If above 80%, zero.

📌 Example:

If one provider has 40% of all users:
→ Score = 30 × (1 - (40 - 10) / 70) = 30 × (1 - 0.43) = 17.1 points

🖥️ How Ease of Self-Hosting Scores Work

These scores measure how easy it is for individuals or communities to run their own servers or use clients.

This looks at how technically easy it is to run your own backend (e.g., email server, Mastodon server) or User Interface (e.g., web-interface or mobile-app)

• Very Easy: One-command Docker, low resources, great documentation → 18–20 points
• Moderate: Docker or manual setup, some config, active community support → 13–17 points
• Hard: Complex setup, needs regular updates or custom config (e.g. DNS, spam) → 6–12 points
• Very Hard or Proprietary: Little to no self-hosting support, undocumented → 0–5 points

PS.

This is Version 1.0 so there are likely flaws and mistakes in it, feel free to help create the best version we can I've put it on https://github.com/NoBadDays/decentralization-score

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28252147

Fedicast / Podcast: https://audio.firesidefedi.live/@firesidefedi/episodes/dansup-pixelfed-loops-sup-etc

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28241019

working on peertube recommendation algorithm has made me realize that we should be collecting our own data.

my program that monitors peertube watching habit and stores it locally and should track YouTube watching habit just so that data can be used in a recommendation algorithm. it would be a good idea for fediverse if there were programs that monitors and stores the data locally for the fediverse and corporate counterpart.

the reason why I would track youtube data was to get the titles of the video

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28197750

I made a browser extension that track the video you watch on a peertube instance linked here https://github.com/solidheron/peertube_recomendation_algorythm

it works decently well but it still has some glitches and a bug that causes minor information loss that will need to be patched out. so this is in alpha and needs to be worked on. I do have another script that gets the data of a hundreds of peertube videos and the closed captions. so got some basic components of an algorithm started. next ill probably figure out how to categorize videos based on peertube api and closed captions.

It's weird knowing someone will improve on this at some point

bellow is the data structure of the browser extension. I did watch videos to get that data and all of this will be stored locally. I recommend looking at it with https://jsonformatter.org/json-viewer . leave a comment/suggestion, I'm up for any submissions.

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Any app recommendations that will allow me to enjoy all the languages on Lemmy?

On mastodon you can easily read Pixelfed and Lemmy. Is that the best option? Can Lemmy not do the same?

I've been using federated social media for a while now and I recently considered setting up an instance for my local community as a sort of Facebook alternative. However, as I thought about it, I wondered if ActivityPub's deletion problem (i.e. if a user deletes their content on their server it doesn't guarantee the content being deleted on other servers) is a fatal flaw. I worry that it would be difficult to secure buy-in from people if they were made aware of this issue, which they have the right to. It does make me wonder if the ATProtocol will be the better protocol if and when it becomes open source.

I'm curious as to other drivers users' thoughts. While it is an issue that we may be happy to live with given the numerous other benefits ActivityPub provides, is it a flaw that will ultimately prevent wide scale adoption?

I’ve been searching for a potential Fediverse-based alternative to Tumblr and recently came across Loforo, Goblin, and Wafrn.

All of them seem interesting, but I’m curious — which one do you think is better for recreating that Tumblr-like experience?

Or is there another platform out there on the Fediverse that’s an even better fit as a Tumblr alternative?

I know there’s been talk about Tumblr supposedly joining the Fediverse, but even if it does, I don’t feel comfortable relying on a centralized, corporate platform anymore.

I’d prefer to support smaller, decentralized, community-driven projects.

Do you have any experience with Loforo, Wafrn, or other platforms that could work for blogging, aesthetic sharing, and building micro-communities like Tumblr?

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Wafrn: https://app.wafrn.net/dashboard

Loforo: https://loforo.com/everyone

Goblin: https://goblin.band/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28140813

Little update on making a peertube recommendation algorithm. I made a script that collects video json and closed caption from instances. Later on I'll figure out a way to organize the data into video description vector. (Data manipulation will be ever improving process but data collecting should be stagnant and only change with activityhub and peertube updates)

My question is if there's a program that monitors or gets a users video watch time and interaction data and stores it locally. I just need something to record my video interactions of peertube videos such as like or dislike a video.

anyone else noticed this? it started a few days ago

Is it just me, or has anyone else thought about the potential for a dedicated bot platform for the Fediverse?

Think of something similar to how Discord has two completely separate apps for managing Discord bots: Bots for Discord, and Bot Designer for Discord.

Users can find, customize, and run bots in Discord servers, all in one place.

Now imagine that, but tailored for the Fediverse.

What I’m envisioning is a platform/app where mods, admins, or individuals can create, browse, and easily deploy bots across different Fediverse platforms.

For example:

• A Lemmy community could add an Automod bot to enforce rules, a "Fact of the Day" bot to post fun trivia, or even character bots (e.g., Harry Potter/Albus Dumbledore/Voldemort/etc. bots for a Harry Potter community, or Link/Zelda for a gaming-themed community, etc.).
• A Pixelfed bot could automatically feature stunning images or run photo contests.
• A Mastodon bot could post breaking news updates or even serve as a Q&A bot for a popular hashtag.
• Peertube bots could promote trending videos or notify communities of shared uploads.
• A Bookwyrm bot could suggest popular books or create fun reading challenges.
• A bot for Calendar-based events, like reminding communities about upcoming holidays or events based on their interests.
• A bot for gamified engagement, such as awarding badges for engagement or posting interactive polls.
• A bot for memes and humour, generating community-specific memes using AI.
• A translation bot to help users bridge discussions across different languages in a multilingual community.
• A bot for feeds, pulling external data (e.g., weather, stock updates, or sports scores) into relevant communities.
• A welcome bot to greet new users and help them onboard into the community.
• etc.

It could work by letting mods/admins/users select which Fediverse platform they want to use the bot on (e.g., Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube, etc.), choose their bot type, and tweak settings for functionality—all from one hub.

The potential for creative and engaging bots is huge, and it could genuinely enhance many Fediverse communities.

I’d honestly love to work on something like this, but unfortunately, I don’t have the time, energy, or knowledge to make it a reality.

So I wanted to toss the idea out here to see if anyone else has thought about something similar—or if this concept already exists and I’ve completely missed it.

What do you think?

Could something like this benefit the Fediverse and its various platforms?

In light of recent controversy and its handling, the twice-a-year FediForum unconference for April 1st and 2nd has been canceled by its organizer.