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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (20 children)

I'd say the game was definitely rigged from the start, but perhaps not just in the way men are raised and socialised.

If you make a joke about the inadequacy of men, you're a bold and insightful person. If you make a joke about the inadequacy of women, you're a misogynistic pig.

Also, remember gents, you should be ok with automatically being considered a threat, because everyone knows men only think about one thing (this is technically true, normally it's "how the feck do I pay my rent this month, I just spent all my money on ").

I'd agree that men are definitely not raised and socialised for that kind of system, but then again who wants to be?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I’d agree that men are definitely not raised and socialised for that kind of system, but then again who wants to be?

nobody wants to be here here, we were all born without the input of our own opinion. You can either do something to change society to improve it for the better generally, or you can sit there and go "well idk guys society is hard to do"

we quite literally just have to build a society that builds men up throughout their lives, we need to give them something to care about socially. Currently, they have nothing.

[–] flerp@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're definitely right that society needs to do a better job with this. Calling men toxic and joking about their inadequacy might make the person speaking feel better about themselves but it's not going to help society at all because that kind of talk is what pushes more and more boys into the arms of the Tate's of the world.

i think even this line of discussion is partially reductive on a fundamental level. It's an important one to have so i don't want to discount it here, but i think it's probably more important that we focus on the issue specifically rather than how what we're currently doing is bad and how it could possibly be negatively influential. Is pretty redundant when we all know that it's just not going to do what we need it to be doing.

Granted some people won't know that, and that's why we're talking about it now, but i feel like it's just such an easy conversation to have comparatively to this one. I'm surprised that this isn't a more regular topic of discussion, though i guess people probably dont think very hard about it.

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