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[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I know this is a joke, but if this is genuinely how someone thinks, then it so self-absorbed and narrow minded to not be able to step out of your own mindset.

The comment implies absolute good/evil and that people are knowingly acting evil. The people you don't agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with (however misguided or skewed they may be). I can't stand racist/sexist people either, but if you can't see how these people are worried that "woke" people are destroying their view of society and threatening their morals, then you won't really be able to engage them to change their minds. This entrenched thinking is why all discourse is now just shouting matches at each other.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Nah, it’s sports team mentality. You can say any reasoned, logical, humanist argument you want, but people will never turn against their “team”.

[–] sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That is verifiably wrong. Daryl Davies is a black man who has convinced dozens of members of the KKK to renounce their beliefs and their robes. You absolutely can convince people that their beliefs are wrong.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah you can, but it’s damn hard. I’m aware of Daryl and he’s done great things, it it’s a tiny fraction of 1%.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

If you have the time, the means, the resources and the will probably. Is it worth it? Most likely not.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. There was a fantastic podcast episode looking at how he did this, but I can't find which specific episode it was now.

I can't believe what I said is being considered such a disagreeable hot take....but I guess that's how polarised the world has become.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

You're also on Lemmy so not exactly a fair sample demographic

[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Your take is only disagreeable because of how unrealistic it is. Do you honestly think everyone else, or even better, society as a whole can implement such time-consuming and long-term methods?

I'm not arguing against the worth or effectiveness of the method. It's actually extremely impressive as a story, but is it feasible as your average way to deal with racists?

Spoiler, no it's not feasible

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