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Interesting how you're more interested in condemning Biden and Harris for this thing they didn't do than Trump for doing it. In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren't involved.
Russian propaganda is a powerful thing.
I can't even blame Russia at this point. These people seriously do not give a shit about this genocide apart from the political points it can score them.
Go to hexbear's mutual_aid community, look at the posts there, and tell me again how much more .world cares about palestinians
What does Hexbear have to do with anything?
ROFL! Hexbear.
Go, look
Can’t. I blocked that shithole a long time ago. Have no intention to reverse this decision until the day comes that I start seeing a better quality of people in support of it.
That day is not today.
Cool, keep your eyes shut then
Yeah… the overwhelming majority of an entire social media platform is clearly wrong for defederating from a toxic shithole, and now, according to you- one has their “eyes closed” for not wanting to ingest vitriol that’s so bad that the same majority of an entire federated community that’s willing to allow twitter links- still shut out your little gas-filed swamp of blowhards?
Hard pass. I’ll keep my eyes open, thanks. It’s allowed me to make the aforementioned observation.
I requested you to have a look at the specific community of mutual_aid, if you don't wanna do that at least shut the fuck up about hexbear caring about the genocide, we actually have Palestinian comrades enduring the whole fucking thing
I don’t recall saying anything at all about Hexbear’s take on genocide, but that you went there so quickly definitely reveals a lot.
And one community doesn’t not an instance make, as even a dumpster fire at least provides warmth So, no. Thanks, but- I don’t think I’ll look at anything in that shithole.
My initial comment to which you answered is specifically about that though
And my initial response was a generalized statement of my opinion that Hexbear is a toxic shithole.
The difference is? Trump didn't lie about it, he said, outright this is what he was going to do. Harris planned to do the exact same thing, but with a pride flag, and it would have been a woman making the bombs being dropped onto kids.
You also seem very unbothered by this plan.
I will think back to threads like this every time I wonder why Democrats never achieve anything meaningful and the country continues to lurch toward fascism. You all seem to be more interested in team sports than actually having principles and expectations for your own party.
The "leftists" on here literally supported Trump. Their reason doesn't matter, they're fascism-enabling Trump supporters in every way that matters.
If you didn't vote, or if you didn't vote for Kamala, you helped Trump get elected. That's not politics, it's math.
I'm a leftist, and I do not, nor have ever, supported Trump. I just didn't support the other genocider, either. Because I have principles that I stand on, one of which is "Never give support to genociders".
I'm glad you feel good about yourself. Your inaction is part of the problem.
Why isn't Harris' inaction part of the problem? I mean, she could have said,"You know, genocide is bad, and when I take office, I will end all support for Israel until they agree to an immediate ceasefire?"
She was never President, so we'll never know. Trump literally said he was going to "finish the problem" but you didn't see any problems with letting him take office. How do you defend that decision?
Harris said she supported Israel, unwavereringly.
So, true, we don't know for sure. Would have helped if she said she'd end US support for the genocide, if she won...
No it wouldn't have. You'd have fallen for some other propaganda designed to get you to stay home.
We fucking didn't. Not voting for Kamala isn't supporting Trump, it's just rejecting genocide. If democrats passed progressive policy and stopped a genocide, they might have had a chance, but they'd rather lose the elections to a fascist than actually pushing progressive policy.
There were no actual leftists on the ballot in every state that campaigned beyond the election year. Kamala was the realistic option. It’s perfectly reasonable to be conflicted about voting for someone because they’re the lesser of two evils, but there’s nothing rational thinking a leftist or faux leftist candidate that only shows up during election years had a realistic chance of winning.
Exactly, so you make it clear to the democrats in the meanwhile: either you move to the left, or eat shit. They decided to do the latter. Now start blaming them for the loss and move towards organising labour and political orgs
70+ million people decided to show up even though it made them feel bad. I'm going to blame the people who stayed home because voting made them uncomfortable.
Genocide and the lack of anything to look forward from the policy of their country made them stay home
Let's be real, the vast majority of the what, 70 ish million that stayed home probably didn't even know what day the election was.
To your point, yeah, a bunch of people wanted to bury their head in the sand to feel better about themselves. This reality is the result.
That is absolutely not an excuse.
There is no "conflicted" on whether or not I should support a genocider. How well do you sleep at night, knowing you supported a genocider?
Who did you support then?