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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (31 children)

“Plug-in solar is part of the whole array of options,”

I don't understand how this works? For our system we need an inverter that cost about $3000.- (half if it doesn't have to handle a battery), and it needs to be installed by an authorized electrician.
For a small system as the one shown, the price of panels are peanuts, the 2 panels shown should cost less than $150 combined. While the cost of inverter and getting it connected is way way higher. There's a lot more to this than not being on the roof!?! But which isn't disclosed.

The article says nothing about how the power from those panels is made usable.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

OK thanks, so they are indeed complete systems including inverter, so it can be connected to the grid.
I suppose they've made some cheap low power inverters then, but the power still needs to have stable voltage an frequency and synchronization. So I wonder how cheap it's possible to make?
I also suppose it still needs an authorized electrician to connect it? Unless Germany has some fancy system that is prepared for "plug in" connection of a local power source.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the EU, as long as it's under 800W it can be plugged directly into an outlet in your home without any kind of installation, back-feeding the grid that way.

You're not getting paid anything for the power you send back into the grid so anything you don't use you lose.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Still very cool, because selling surplus power is almost completely worthless anyway. (at least it is here)
In the summer when you can sell, prices are generally extremely low, we have sold about twice what we use, but the value of selling is only about 5-10% on average, compared to the savings of using it ourselves. That's because the price often drop to close to zero in the middle of the day, and sometimes even below.
Electricity itself is dirt cheap, the reason the prices are high are transportation and taxes, and short peak prices in the evening. Here transportation alone is more than the electricity itself during winter.
And we are only paid the pure electricity price here, which I suppose is the case most places.

[–] genevieve@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It literally plugs into the wall.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That's amazing. 😀

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