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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 91 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Not gonna get those minerals now, Trump. Either Ukraine deals them to someone else, or Putin claims them for himself.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 30 points 3 days ago (10 children)

And I think you're seeing this ending up a whole lot differently than I am. I think Trump and Putin carved up Ukraine in their phone call. That Russia isn't going to allow any troops but Americans into Ukraine to secure the "negotiated peace", that they will threaten to fire on any NATO country that sets foot in Ukraine except for the Americans. Russia will keep what they invaded and took plus some, the US will get to rape Ukraine of it's rare earth minerals in the rest using Ukranian ports to export them to the US under the guise of reparations for aid given in the last 3 years. That's how I see it playing out. Europe is going to have to decide how important Ukraine is to it, and given European history, they talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, they'er going to decided to protect their own borders, rather than forcing their way into the meat grinder between the US and Russia.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We went east two times before. So you can't say we never tried.

Three times a charm.

The most interesting problem now is, the biggest dependable Nato partner which is left is Turkey. Lets see how that pans out.

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