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[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 51 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

We should stop calling it "the west" then.
It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
We should think of a new name...

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago
[โ€“] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks

[โ€“] Doom@ttrpg.network 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.

The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?

[โ€“] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

they are imperialist too, but not nearly to the same degree

[โ€“] Doom@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 hours ago

sorry they absolutely are.

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 3 hours ago

Just less successful

[โ€“] aleq@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?

[โ€“] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

NATO and Friends sounds like some Paw Patrol type cartoon.

[โ€“] doortodeath@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?

[โ€“] Shtef@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Just kick out the "freest" country

[โ€“] match@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago
[โ€“] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 4 hours ago

Kingdom of the billionaires.

[โ€“] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

[โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

[โ€“] Doom@ttrpg.network -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

[โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

They have has as much of a seat as warrants their size and economic power, perhaps even more because of their location as a buffer against China. Most EU countries have pull only because they are part of the EU. Compare Spain and Japan on the world stage, for example.

[โ€“] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Japan's the third largest economy in the world and they aligned themselves with the West in the Meiji restoration. they sought imperial conquest of their neighbors in the 1900s. what more do you want for them to be the West

[โ€“] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've been calling it piss-jizz

[โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

pee pee poo poo hehehe (don't tell my mom I said that)