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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/february-harvard-caps--harris-poll-58-of-voters-are-more-satisfied-with-trumps-job-as-president-than-biden-302383357.html

Just a reminder to not let Lemmy be your echo chamber. Most people either don't know about the shit we care about, or don't care.

Unfortunately, it will probably get worse.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (6 children)

All of Trump's key policies received majority support except for renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, with deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes (81%), eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditures (76%), and closing the border (76%) as the top three most supported policies.

Surely the proletariat will express their disgust with fascism any day now, we just had to Teach The Dems(tm) first. Any day now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

God damn, you will never stop being salty that genocide wasn't a winning issue.

[–] dan@lemmy.i.secretponi.es 33 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Based on the sample, this seems like a disingenuous poll.

  • We always deported felons. Yet, P01135809's deportation rate is actually lower than Biden's.

  • We always fought to eliminate fraud and waste. The GOP has invited felons convicted of fraud into the government.

  • The border isn't closed and hasn't been.

If you're asking these sorts of questions it feels more like push polling propaganda than an honest assessment of feelings.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

It is a bullshit poll.

eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditures

If you ask that question, without being extremely specific as to how "fraud" and "waste" are defined, you're going to get mass agreement. Nobody wants their tax dollars misused. But a Dem might say giving subsidies to the oil industry is fraud and waste, while a Republican might say any money spent on non-billionaires is fraud and waste.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It's a disengenuous poll imo

Penn was a chief strategist and pollster in the Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign. Penn later became a defender of Donald Trump, opposing his impeachment, consulting on his 2020 presidential campaign, and alleging a "deep state" conspiracy against him.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter that we've always fought to eliminate fraud and waste and that the GOP is full of frauds. They support Dear Leader 'eliminating' fraud and waste.

Facts don't matter, man.

[–] dan@lemmy.i.secretponi.es 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that's my point. If the poll is not based on anything other than bullshit, what's the point of giving it any consideration?

We may as well be discussing a poll on everyone's favorite Teletubby.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I guess that’s my point. If the poll is not based on anything other than bullshit, what’s the point of giving it any consideration?

Because people approve of bullshit. Because people vote based on bullshit. Because people form their worldviews on bullshit.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Did they ask about “siding with Russia over Ukraine”, or “Making peace in Ukraine in three weeks”? Yes framing matters, and obviously people support policies that are framed like “eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditure “. Wonder how that position is affected if you add the subclause “by kids that come straight out of high school “.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

72% of voters say they want Ukraine to negotiate a settlement with Russia instead of winning the war. 60% of voters favor Trump announcing direct U.S.-Russia negotiations (Democrats: 40%; Republicans: 85%; Independents: 53%).

59% of voters oppose the Trump administration leaving Ukraine's leaders out of negotiations with Russia. 55% of voters oppose the exclusion of European leaders.

57% of voters oppose the Trump administration forcing Ukraine to make territorial concessions to end the war, and 66% of voters say Ukraine should receive security guarantees from the U.S. if it were to make concessions.

61% of voters say security guarantees should be contingent on Ukraine sharing revenue from rare earth elements to pay back U.S. military support.

63% of voters believe Russia will continue to advance onto other countries if it successfully claims Ukrainian territory.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Ah, I see what the article got wrong now. They think he actually wants to implement those policies instead of just being evil for no reason and using those as a guise.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

there's is a lot of nuances with those top three. they sound pretty good as an idea but I'm against trumps definition and actions on each of those items

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I support deporting undocumented immigrants who commit a crime... for certain definitions of crime. I am not aware of anyone in my personal circle who would say that someone who bypassed asylum seeking to enter the country undocumented and then raped someone should be allowed to stay... the issue is that the administration considers all undocumented immigrants to be equally worthy of deportation while disallowing reasonable legal paths to immigrate.

Due to the sematic bad faith tools in place it's extremely difficult to actually gauge legitimate opinion since that wording evokes a particular ideation in conservatives and the administration exploits that mismatch to commit actions that most Americans find objectionable.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So someone enters the country illegally, commits a crime, you want to just send them back? To do it all again? Rather than, you know, put them in jail for the crime?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Yes, coupled with actual paths to immigrate legally even without "marketable skills".