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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Explanation: The US Civil War is sometimes said, by a particularly vile tradition known as the "Lost Cause", to have been started over "states' rights".

Other than being patently untrue in and of itself, as the seceding Confederacy actually denied states more rights than the Union did, the simple fact is that the war was about slavery. It's the only issue of the period where "states' rights" (as states had the right to allow or forbid slavery) even could conceivably come into play.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Okay I'll be really pedantic and say that the war was about states' rights, particularly a state's right to secede. Of course they decided to secede because of slavery so it's a moot point, but the North didn't give a shit about slavery; they just wanted to keep those damn traitors in the Union.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most of the states cited the owning slaves as their cause for succeeding in their Articles/Causes of Succession.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/secession-acts-thirteen-confederate-states

I want to say 3 of them didn't mention it directly. Three.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

I was trying to make an it takes two to tango argument by saying that the North only went to war because of the South's secession, not because they wanted to end slavery (either motivation would be just and correct, don't get me wrong; I did say I was being pedantic). I mean turns out I was wrong because the North was committed to fighting, though not necessarily ending, slavery from the start so the war was about slavery as much as it was about secession.

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