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Luigi Mangione

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Wait, so you can imprison someone before they are indicted? Why was Trump walking free for 4 years?

[–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Dual Sovereignty

There are 50 State Jurisdictions and a Federal Jurisdiction.

Luigi Mangione was charged under New York State laws, he was held by a state jail/prison.

These new charges are Federal. The feds took their time because he's already in a State jail/prison, so no need to rush the charges. They can take the time to plan on making an example out of him.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do the new charges reset the speedy trial timer? Dude has been in custody for over 4 months.

4 months?

Oh you're gonna wanna learn about the speed of court procedures.

It can take years for trials to happen.

And one jurisdictions proceedings doesn't affect the other.

Think of New York state and the US Federal government as two Sovereign nations. That's what the Sovereignty in "Dual Sovereignty" mean.

Theoretically, the Federal government could've waited for the State proceedings to finish, then file charges and arrest him again after he gets acquitted by the state courts. It wouldn't, legally speaking, violate any "speedy trial" clause (even though ethically it would). And it also doesn't violate Double Jeopardy clause, since they are considered separate "Sovereigns".

That's legal shenanigans for ya.

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