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As a non-American I can’t believe that my wife and I could fly to the USA when she’s 8 months pregnant, give birth while there, and our kid would then be a US citizen, and as such we could probably then just choose to stay in the USA indefinitely. It makes no sense.
The fact that this has been possible all this time is baffling. Passport tourism is not something that should ever have been allowed, especially when it is mostly used by illegal immigrants in order to gain protection from being deported.
This shouldn’t even be a “left vs right” or “progressive vs conservative” thing. It’s just a bad thing that has no reason to exist.
Why do you care about illegal immigrants? My nation had a higher influx of refugees and their ratio to local citizens was also higher than USA, so, why do you care about illegal immigrants?
Why does your nation having more refugees etc matter?
Illegal immigration is wrong. If you want to live in another country, follow the rules and do it the right way.
What if "the right way" is purposely blocked or made impossible?
A lot of American history has clear demonstration of using the letter of the law to impede people trying to live their life.
Georgia city clerk: "Oh sorry, we need you to bring your land ownership forms. Don't own land? Well, this office is closed for lunch, have a good day".
Then you don’t get to go and live in that country.
I get that it's legally wrong, but do you think it's ethically wrong?
What if someone thinks the laws and systems in place aren't morally perfect?
I don’t think it’s ethically wrong to have migration policies in place, no. If we didn’t it would easily enable certain countries with gigantic populations to essentially take over the world.
I don’t see anything immoral or unethical about the legal immigration system in the USA for example, do you?
What certain countries? And are you alleging there is a coordinated "take over"?
No, I specifically said that if there were no immigration laws then there could be. China for one would absolutely start taking over countries with sheer number of people.
Fascinating! What other countries do you think would start taking over places without immigration laws?
"freedom advocate" arguing for strict border regulation and the ultimate authority of nation states lol.
If you had plural brain cells you'd probably read into what actual freedom oriented philosophies have to say on the matter.
Freedom to lick that boot