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[โ€“] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (22 children)

It won't be me and, unless I have some loved one there, I'm not thoughtlessly jumping into suicide.

[โ€“] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (19 children)

I think teleportation is a really interesting philosophical question. If life is deterministic and there is no soul, then there should be no problem with teleportation. From a deterministic atheist perspective it should not be a problem, I wouldn't teleport myself though ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think it's mostly a semantic argument: nothing is being "teleported", it's a copy. That copy will surely be a perfect copy of me at time T, and after T we'll drift and become different folks, but a copy of me is not me, and if you punch the copy it doesn't hurt me. SOMA showcases it pretty well! Anything else cannot even be conceived, right? And even if matter could be "transported" FTL into a different place, wouldn't the "zipping" process destroy me? The silver cord would be cut, and even if the person on the other side wakes up feeling like me, I would already be gone. It's consciousness and the vessel for consciousness, not one or the other.

[โ€“] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

Well the person being teleported would cease to exist. If life is deterministic then there is no consciousness, just a predetermined path. So my argument is basically that you don't exist anyways, and by that extension teleportation is not a problem, because the copy is not alive either.

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