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The AI may run locally, but is it keeping all of the interactions local too?
Do we trust anyone who is jamming AI bullshit into their products and services?
I won't use any of these features, but this comment is pure FUD
Being skeptical due to trends is not FUD.
What about the trend of Firefox being the only alternative entity to the massive public corporations that definitely don't have your best interests at heart that actually has the resources to develop and maintain a modern browser? Everytime Firefox posts anything you have people running around screaming that the sky is falling, and while they have made some missteps,
I don't see how local LLM models that you don't have to use is something to panic about, and I don't see how throwing the baby out with the bathwater is supposed to make the webbrowser landscape better. In fact, it would be giving all of the cards to Google.
Being skeptical isn't the same thing as trashing them. Mozilla are not above reproach, and should be questioned thoroughly to ensure that they are being completely clear and honest and not using weasel words to gloss over some common trends with implementations of AI.
Honestly the only reason I even engage is because Mozilla/Firefox are the most respecting of privacy or the big players and I want that to continue.
This is true, but it is not what you're doing when you make comments like the one I originally replied to. Firefox putting local models in the browser for people that want to use models but don't want to send their data to cloud providers is directly a privacy forward option, and somehow you are twisting that into them selling your data.
Sorry, but that is not reasonable criticism. It is FUD.
Local models doesn't guarantee that all data stays local. Do you assume that local AI models in Firefox will NOT send any telemetry data as the default setting?
Wouldn't it be better to know for sure that they will have that either disabled or have telemetry as an opt in?
Yes. I will assume that unless it is found to be untrue, because I don't think making up things to be upset about is productive.
It has been a while since I installed Firefox, which I use daily, but I don't remember turning on any of the settings under Data Collection in Settings. Did I choose those and just forgot, or where they on and I needed to know to turn them off?
Then complain about that, a real thing, instead of making vague statements about how they don't pass your vibe check by adding LLM stuff.
That is literally the thing my first post was referring to:
The second sentence about AI was explaining why I had that concern.