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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That's the thing, though: many people advocating for UBL argue that it should replace ALL benefits (like the person I responded to) because, according to them, the UBL would cover all issues already. Generally speaking, people who argue like that are under 30 and haven't had any serious contact with chronic conditions and don't even consider the existence of anything worse than a broken leg.

Special needs (not only disabilities but all sorts of special circumstances) are complex, and UBL is a simple solution for complex issues. And a system like UBL needs to work for everyone, not only for most people.

[–] darthmachina@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He literally said "I totally want socialized healthcare".

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Follow the thread, read the context.

First guy was like "UBI should replace everything". Then I said "Watch out, everything is not a good idea because e.g. health care costs vary wildly". Second guy was like "Nobody is arguing for UBI without socialized healthcare". To which I said "Well, some people do". And then you came here and said "But second guy literally said he wants socialized healthcare".

[–] darthmachina@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here, let me quote his last paragraph before the edit for you:

I may not be the target audience though as I also totally want socialized healthcare, free education extending into the collegiate level, and a UBI replacing all welfare programs, because those fall under the "General Welfare" set out by the Constitution and those things would cost less than what we have now for far better outcomes.

See that "I also totally want socialized healthcare" line?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't there in the original version.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I guarantee you it was, as the only edit I made was to comment on how I somehow got a net 17 downvotes with only you laying out a complete reason for disagreement, even if it was due to a misreading caused misunderstanding apparently. I found it funny that I honestly couldn't figure out which political party I pissed off to get that many down votes.

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