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[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world -5 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

Uh. This is absolutely a constitutional freedom. Would y'all be incensed if it was a Muslim congressperson (say, Rashida Tlaib) that was praying? Yeah, they're hypocrites, but get angry about the hypocrisy and the Christian nationalism, not the expressions of religion.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

Would y’all be incensed if it was a Muslim congressperson (say, Rashida Tlaib) that was praying?

Uh, yes? This shit should be as far away from politics as possible. I don't want to see any religion's prayer/practice in that building.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Constitutional freedoms--including religion--are a foundation for our country. If that's not what you want, feel free to repeal the constitution, or move to a country that has a state religion instead.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao. Foundation of your country is racism, slavery, oppression, and neocolonialism.

Feel free to read a history book that isn't a full-blown propaganda some day. Your country always has been a christofascist state.

But whatever makes you sleep at night, ig.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I've read history books that aren't full-blown propaganda. If you had read any, you would know that oppression and violence is the foundation of ALL western countries, and most non-western ones as well. The difference being that countries in the EU are more comfortable forgetting that their wealth was built on things like the exploitation of the Congo, the British East India Company, et al.

The founding document of the US though, which is what I was clearly referring to, established certain civil rights that the gov't isn't supposed to infringe. Religious liberty is one of those. This is notably not a right in most non-US countries; many EU countries have state-funded religions, and citizens are often taxes by the gov'ts to pay for those religions.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't say they aren't allowed to pray, just not in government buildings. It's literally the first fucking amendment (plus tons of contemporary writing from numerous founding fathers).

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, no. That was never the intent of 1A. Individuals, or groups, are more than welcome to pray in government buildings, as long as they aren't forcing that religious expression on unwilling people, using it as a religious test, or something similar that would amount to the establishment of a state-sponsored religion.

Students can pray in schools; teachers can pray in schools. Teachers can not compel students to participate in prayers, nor are teachers supposed to lead students in prayer (as that's implied compulsion).

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