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In short:

Russia has become the first country to formally recognise the Taliban's government in Afghanistan since it seized power in 2021.

Afghanistan's Foreign Ministry called Russia's official recognition a historic step.

The Taliban has sought international recognition while also enforcing its strict interpretation of Islamic law.

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

Fuck Russia, fuck the Taliban

That said, all the other countries that haven't recognized them just have their head in the sand.

Whether you like them or not, they're the ones in power there and despite being a bunch of bumbling, backwards, violent, religious fanatics, they've actually done a better job of holding onto that power than anyone else has over the last half century.

Pretending they're not is really just denying reality.

[–] TechAnon@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Aren't they recognized as a terrorist group vs a government? I'm guessing legitimacy is the main issue here.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Interestingly enough, the US doesn't seem to regard the Taliban (at least not the main branch that's currently running Afghanistan) as a terrorist organization.

When you said that I thought they might, I was actually pretty sure it was the case, but on looking into it that doesn't seem like they do, at least not officially.

Some other countries do, and there are a couple other Taliban splinter groups and such that do make the cut.

And of course, the entire history of Afghanistan since the Cold war can probably be of best summed up as "an absolute fucking mess" full of different factions, shifting allegiances, and all of that geopolitical nonsense, but you can make a pretty compelling argument that the US sort of put the Taliban in charge there in the first place. The us backed the Mujahideen against Russia back in the day, and while they're not exactly the same organization, there was a whole lot of overlap between former members of the Mujahideen and the people who formed the Taliban. So from one angle slapping the terrorist label on them would be kind of like admitting "we backed the terrorists"

[–] TechAnon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I do find it strange I only found one mention of Taliban here: https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/

Designated in 2010. Probably because exactly what you said. The historical mess.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

Sounds like you did pretty much the same bit of googling I did, because I also ended up there and ctrl-f'd "Taliban" and only found the one result

For anyone who doesn't go down the rabbit hole themselves, that result is "Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP)" or the "Pakistani Taliban"

Which is a group that mostly seems to be active in Pakistan (duh) and in Afghanistan near the border. TTP pledges allegiance to the Afghan Taliban, but the Afghan Taliban, at least publicly rejects that allegiance (though you can certainly make some arguments that they're probably in cahoots, just keeping things off-the-books)

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

A terrorist group? Designated by who? And whom are they terrorizing?

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