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As of 30 minutes ago at the time of posting, the NYPD has detained two young Black men after they refused their demands to show ID without explanation or cause. (files.catbox.moe)

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The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

Not exactly a new thing.

"Resonable Suspicion" is a lower threshold than "Probable Cause".

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reasonable suspicion of a crime. You need to say the whole thing.

The number of cops that thinks "I've got reasonable suspicion of you being suspicious." Has always been too goddamn high. You need reasonable suspicion OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Being suspicious isn't a crime. Being black or Latino in a subway station isn't a crime. Even stop and identify laws need to be based in reasonable suspicion of a crime because the 4th amendment demands it.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That is why cops have Terry Stops that allow them to fill in the reason as whatever and the judge always sides with the cops