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... While I very much have strong issues with the tankie/horse shoe theory propaganda...
y'all are really suggesting boycotting lemmy.ml because the head admin there is an a-hole... while using lemmy... that said admin is the head dev of.
I don't really want to use any software when the administrators/developers of this software do not recognize the genocide of my people (or other peoples) and speak similar tankie nonsense. Lemmy is not very popular as it is, and I don't think it will become more popular if the administrators/developers are... like this. The good thing is that it's open source, and there are alternatives.
Honestly though, 99% of users have no clue who the devs of their platforms are, and could not care less about them. Same with admins.
Normally, yes. However, the Lemmy devs thrust themselves into the spotlight with their words and actions (dessalines themselves has posted Tankie content, just recently a meme about the DPRK dictatorship being "western propaganda") through their instance
If they just had alts on grad or hex that no one knew was them, or hell ran grad or hex with said, we wouldn't be here on this comm today.
Instances would just defederate them and move on, but they don't want that because it reduces their audience.
MeanwhileOnGrad alone has ~2000 users per month, and much of the material here is (thanks to CM0002) about the Lemmy devs' insanity.
What percentage of the MAU of Lemmy, do you think, is 2000 users?
Agreed. But sh.itjust.works appears to be lemmy and not any of the (probably not the right word but) forks.
And, to be clear; No ethical consumption under capitalism, yada yada yada.
But calling for a boycott of a dipshit's instance using the thing that gives his instance its power is just... I would use a simile involving McDonald's but lemmy is still reddit enough that NOBODY will ever look at a metaphor in good faith.
I think you're missing the point of what a boycott is accomplishing in this case. I don't think it has anything to do with their financial situation, the boycott is presumably (from my perspective) to lower interaction and engagement and make it a less attractive instance for new people to get sucked into.
That's entirely the point. The less traffic .ml has, the less influence it has over the overall Fediverse and the less their harmful authoritarian views can be spread. New users that sign up on Lemmy are constantly exposed to their curated extremist views and get banned for dissenting, which puts a bad taste in their mouths and they tell everyone else what a tankie shithole Lemmy is. Dessalines and Davel are actively harmful to the entire platform with their behaviour.