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Do you believe that the people should be able to have guns to protect themselves, or should the police have the sole authority to own and posess guns to protect the people? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 days ago by DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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(As a general concept of how a society should run, not intended as a US-specific question.)

I sometimes see people on the internet saying that giving people easy access to guns is too risky and there should be stricter gun control, while simultaneously wanting to abolish the police? I'm just confused on what people really want?

You cant both abolish the police and then also disarm the citizens, gotta pick one. So which is it, internet? Self-policing with guns? Or reform the police?

[Please state what country you're in]

::: spoiler

(Also its funny how the far-right of the US is both pro-gun and pro-police, I'm confused by that as well) :::

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Maybe this is what they had in mind.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Don’t put that racist shit on me.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Any time something is hard to get then it is available to whoever has power and denied to minorities. While you may not have intended to mean that, it is the end result of the approach you are promoting.

[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hard to get doesn't mean expensive. It means you can't have it if you can't handle it. Like a car. Nobody would give a driving license to a blind person. And nobody should have a gun permit if you are mentally unstable.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Expense is not the only way to make something hard to get, and gun laws have a long history of being made in a way that intentionally or unintentionally makes it difficult for minorities.

Many of the historical laws they found were virulently racist, restricting access to weaponry for enslaved people, Indigenous Americans and other racial minorities.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-07/if-we-must-rely-on-history-and-tradition-to-assess-gun-laws-does-racist-history-count

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