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i like how you start with a question like you want to have a conversation and then go on to construct a narrative about how i'm stupid irrational immature and not worth taking seriously because i'm upset about being misled into wasting a bunch of hours on the exact same bad game.
Yes thats called being able to entertain multiple thoughts within my head at the same time.
Yes, you are clearly upset, but you are also clearly being unreasonably hyperbolic, and also making many broadly false, disprovable claims, and also mixing subjective opinions with things that are actually either objectively examinable claims, or are subjective, but fairly far outside the realm of being considered generally reasonable.
That is to say, you have lost the capacity to be rational, objective, reasonable.
It is possible to have a controversial opinion and still be rational, objective, and reasonable.
But this is not what you are doing.
You have been very emotional and it has lead you to make hysterical statements.
Thats fine, thats a fairly normal thing that happens when people are very emotional, but ...
Your original post was claiming that the game is just as bad and broken as it was years ago.
This simply is not true, for the vast, vast majority of players on all kinds of systems.
The game now is nowhere near the abysmally broken state it was in at launch.
The most likely rational explanation for all the bugs you are apparently experiencing is that the error lies on your end, PEBKAC, you probably don't have a powerful enough computer to run this game, or your computer has something seriously wrong with it, or you have misconfigured some vital part of your system.
The steam reviews of the game have actually recovered so much that general sentiment is now "very positive", roughly 90% positive, when it was initially at "mixed", roughly 60% positive.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/four-years-after-its-disastrous-launch-cyberpunk-2077-has-a-great-steam-user-score/1100-6529009/
https://www.lorenzostanco.com/lab/steam/ratings/1091500/2016/u+ur+uc+urc/
A very large part of that is due to the amount of bugs and stability issues that were fixed, again over all platforms.
It is not rational to call people delusional, and to make one intial set of specific claims, and then broadly expand those to a whole bunch of other claims and gripes, and then refuse to answer specific questions or respond to specific counter arguments, or simply respond with more derision, in excess.
That is what a hysterical, emotional freakout looks like, making a bunch of highly aggro claims, mostly because you are just very hurt or upset.
That doesn't mean that your feelings are invalid, that your subjective opinions are "wrong", but neither does it validate your factually wrong statements, nor does it come across as generally reasonable when you have such numerous and strong opinions that are significantly outside of the general sentiment.
i've said multiple times throughout this thread that the bugs are far from my only complaint now, nor were they at launch. yes the bugs have been fixed, the bugs were not what was causing the poor experience. people who i described my experience to swore up and down to me that the game is different now, and it was so similar an experience overall as to be identically poor for broadly the same set of reasons. i have people in this thread calling me a liar about the bugs i experienced, meanwhile i literally have a person who rates the game as a favorite sitting next to me playing the game on a steam deck calling bullshit on those comments. the general reaction here has mostly been emotional retaliation, tone policing, and disingenuous gaslighting like your pedantic essay about how i'm a liar because of things you decided that i said.
Nah, the general reaction has been calling you out for acting like a child and arguing in bad faith. You're crying about "tone policing" when half of the comments on this post are you complaining about the reaction people are having to the words you are typing.
You completely dismiss people who disagree with you and in the same breath cry about how nobody is taking your arguments in good faith. It isn't emotional retaliation or tone policing to point out that every response from you is a shallow complaint about how some part of the game is dogshit, incompetent slop, or just "bad" and your singular response to people who actually bothered to give a nuanced opinion has been "oh well I must be in a completely different version of reality then because it is objectively bad".
i must be in a different version of reality because the person sitting next to me playing the game on their steam deck right now is calling bullshit on a steam deck user in this thread calling me a liar about the bugs i mentioned seeing, and i have in fact engaged with multiple people here and come to some amount of consensus about at least a half dozen specific complaints i listed.
the meme is about how i'm frustrated at feeling incredibly misled by fans of the game grossly overstating and out right misrepresenting the amount and kind of work that's been done to the game, and dogging me about playing a game i was quite clear about not liking and why (and it's not about bugs).
you're all whining about me telling you what not to like when the meme is about feeling like it wasn't good enough that i played and disliked it once already. i have 40 hours in that game because of being made to feel like i wasn't enjoying it because i was doing it wrong.
the meme is literally about being frustrated at feeling like it's not allowed to not engage with a popular thing that you don't find enjoyable. yeah i'm gonna react poorly to essays in my inbox about how i'm a liar for saying i saw a bug and demanding specs and telling me i'm stupid and shit.
Okay so you're in like, middle school. Got it. Have fun with your internet temper tantrum then.