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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Counter argument:

Early on in the days of AI, so, geeze, like all of 2 years ago now, Steve Coulson was experimenting using Midjourney to create comic books.

You can download them for free, the most impressive one at the time was "The Lesson":

https://aicomicbooks.com/book/the-lesson-book-by-steve-coulson-download-now/

At this point the creator is less of an artist than they are a producer. He worked from a script and used AI to generate each individual panel of the book.

I'm sure for each panel finally used there were hundreds, if not thousands of rejects, either because they failed to meet the request or didn't match the style, or the character models weren't quite right, or there were too many hallucinations, etc. etc.

It still took a human to go through and make the artistic choices necessary to map the images to the narrative and produce the book as a whole.

In this way, AI art is kind of like decoupage. All the images used are pre-existing, but it still takes human intent to select and combine them in a new way.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Very similar things were said when photography was invented. There was great outcry that it debased art as a whole. It took decades before visual symbolic language adapted to the new media and methods. Man Ray was just one artist that found some of the new ground in photography. I'm sure you can find others.

The problem (IMO) is impatience. The pace of innovation is so fast that we've forgotten how slowly art history usually happens. We see fads, fashion, and styles change quickly and take it as a permanent seismic shift. Art contains symbolic language that needs to grow and evolve in order to become expressive. Were the first movies masterpieces? Well, they were for the time. But they seem primitive and amateurish to a modern eye. Because the art grew.

I agree the current generation of slop is... Slop. But we haven't had enough time to judge it this harshly. Yet.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

My parents also said the same thing about electronic music

"it's not real music, the computer makes it!"

every new technology that lowers the barrier of entry gets derided every time. Tale as old as time.

Every new technology that enables more of the masses to participate will obviously mean more low quality stuff gets made. That doesnt mean the tool is worthless.

Is there a lot of AI slop art? Of course there is... but i hate these anti-AI extremists (especially concentrated in the fediverse) that reject ANYTHING that has even touched AI to be worthless.

"oh what a nice picture... wait what? The artist filled in one corner with AI? it's total trash!"

[–] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 23 hours ago

If one brush stroke in a painting were made using the blood of a murdered child as paint, would you treat the entire painting and the artist with suspicion? I would. Maybe a masterpiece could be so good that it would overpower that one act in my subjective evaluation, but it would have to be the masterpiece of a true visionary. I would not be easily persuaded.

Oil is the blood of the very earth on which we depend to live, so to spill it in the name of art is perhaps a greater crime than to spill human blood. Again, I could be persuaded by a masterpiece to set aside the flaws in its creation, but it would require a certain bar of quality.

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