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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (10 children)

..they are dictators…? Just because Diaz generally is of the more benevolent flavor doesn’t negate that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Cuba and Venezuela are both more democratic than the US Empire, and moreover affirming the US Empire's narrative on Venezuela while it manufactures consent for terrorizing and killing Venezuelans is the opposite of what a socialist should be doing. By affirming the US Empire's narrative, Mamdani is providing a block on what is considered "acceptable leftism" in the public discourse.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Venezuela is a shit show politically by any measure and no US Empire whataboutism can change that. It's possible to call out Maduro and call out the US. Sometimes there is no good guy, just bad guys and worse guys.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Venezuela is a quasi-socialist country attempting to build a real, solid socialist foundation, and has to do so while juggling aggression from the genocidal US Empire. Maduro is popularly supported by the people, and demonized in the west due to being a socialist. There's no "whataboutism" here, not all comparison is inherently poor logic, no matter how much anti-socialists protest.

Additionally, talking about "good guys" and "bad guys" is just Marvel-logic, the world doesn't run on metaphysical ideals of good and evil, and trying to describe situations as such without careful materialist contextualization just blunts any actual discussion.

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