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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 102 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I think a substantial part of the problem is the employee turnover rates in the industry. It seems to be just accepted that everyone is going to jump to another company every couple years (usually due to companies not giving adequate raises). This leads to a situation where, consciously or subconsciously, noone really gives a shit about the product. Everyone does their job (and only their job, not a hint of anything extra), but they're not going to take on major long term projects, because they're already one foot out the door, looking for the next job. Shitty middle management of course drastically exacerbates the issue.

I think that's why there's a lot of open source software that's better than the corporate stuff. Half the time it's just one person working on it, but they actually give a shit.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Definitely part of it. The other part is soooo many companies hire shit idiots out of college. Sure, they have a degree, but they've barely understood the concept of deep logic for four years in many cases, and virtually zero experience with ANY major framework or library.

Then, dumb management puts them on tasks they're not qualified for, add on that Agile development means "don't solve any problem you don't have to" for some fools, and... the result is the entire industry becomes full of functionally idiots.

It's the same problem with late-stage capitalism... Executives focus on money over longevity and the economy becomes way more tumultuous. The industry focuses way too hard on "move fast and break things" than making quality, and ... here we are, discussing how the industry has become shit.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My hot take : lots of projects would benefit from a traditional project management cycle instead of trying to force Agile on every projects.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agile SHOULD have a lot of the things 'traditional' management looks for! Though so many, including many college teachers I've heard, think of it way too strictly.

It's just the time scale shrinks as necessary for specific deliverable goals instead of the whole product... instead of having a design for the whole thing from top to bottom, you start with a good overview and implement general arch to service what load you'll need. Then you break down the tasks, and solve the problems more and more and yadda yadda...

IMO, the people that think Agile Development means only implement the bare minimum ... are part of the complete fucking idiot portion of the industry.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Funny how agile seems to mean different things to different people.

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