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[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

When I see E2EE and XMPP mentioned, I think of this blog post by Soatok, outlining some very odd cryptographic choices in XMPP + OMEMO: https://soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against-xmppomemo/

I would very much like to see a richer playing field than just Signal for private messaging, but it's a tough nut to crack. For exactly which aspect that turns me away from XMPP for E2EE, I think this nails it down:

you only need check whether OMEMO is on by default (it isn’t), or whether OMEMO can be turned off even if your client supports it (it can).

When the competition is Signal, these sorts of details matter a lot.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That article is highly misleading.

A good response can be found here: https://www.moparisthebest.com/against-silos-signal/

[–] starkzarn@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

This is also a great article! Thanks for the link.

One cool point in favor of XMPP is that in a public setting (MUCs), there's community. Moparisbest is an active participant in several of the MUCs that I'm in. Very cool!

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