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President Trump has been a cheerleader for coal miners. But these miners say his administration is failing to enforce limits on a lethal workplace hazard

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Can someone explain to me why in 2025 people are still ending up with black lung? Don’t they wear respirators on the job to prevent inhalation of silica dust?

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 11 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The head of Health and Safety at my previous job used to work at a mine, and he said that gains in PPE were basically a victim of their own success, in his opinion. Wearing your respirator and other PPE will go a long way towards mitigating these risks, but they're not the most pleasant things to wear for hours on end. He told me that lots of younger guys would come in, start working and see all the old guys at it with their respirators on, but they'd opt not to wear them whenever they thought they could get away with it, since they didn't personally know people who developed black lung in the field. That's just what he had told me, so I couldn't say how accurate it really is, but given the attitudes I've seen from guys in other fields towards wearing all their PPE, it wouldn't really surprise me if it were largely true.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The head of Health and Safety at my previous job used to work at a mine, and he said that gains in PPE were basically a victim of their own success, in his opinion.

Sounds a lot like the general population when it comes to vaccine efficacy, too. I cannot tell you how many people have told me, since about the 90s, when the denialism really started to get underway, that "I didn't vaccinate my kids and they never got sick!"

/facepalm

I remember talking to my retired grandmother, who worked her entire life as a nurse, about these experiences while she was still alive, and she had zero fucking patience for that shit, since she was of a generation that saw the effects of many of these diseases. It positively enraged her, if you want to be honest. And she was very right to be mad.

This PPE thing is rather exasperating to hear about, too, but at least people are not putting others, including their own children, at risk, I guess...

[–] hilljack26301@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s worth noting that Trump and the rise of fascism happened after most of the WW2 vets died.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s what I keep reiterating. This is like some weird teenage rebellion from the boomers. They’re like “finally the sane people have died. We can be Nazis now.” All of this is just some way to piss on my grandparent’s grave.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People keep referencing that Fourth Turning stuff. People say it's been largely "debunked", but I do wonder if there is not something to it...I think the larger problem is not so much the boomers, though. Taco is not even a boomer and he definitely should have known better on the Nazi stuff, but his brain is broken and I doubt his generation has very much to do with it.

The young males all bro'ing out online, bitching about the dating scene, calling themselves incels, listening to Rogan and Benny Johnson and joining up with nonsense like the Proud Boys are most definitely NOT boomers.

As a Gen Xer I remember a boomer lecturing me on wearing a shirt from The Cult - the had made use of the Iron Cross and he was concerned I had fallen in with the skinhead stuff. Gen X and certainly boomers had quite a bit of that drilled into our heads about the dangers of fascism. I think it stuck with most of us. As fewer and fewer olds are around to keep that cultural memory alive though, I do wonder...the problem is that even with the people that do know about the dangers of fascism, I think few are really aware that it won't take the same form as it did in Italy or Germany in the 1930s.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I guess I have different experiences where I do see the GenZ kids have all fallen into blatant Hitler worshiping Nazism. But I see a lot of boomers who were proud veterans and sons of veterans who have drank the Koolaide. Also, like who was the one raising these Hitler worshiping GenZ kids? Who raised the JD Vance millennials? These people spawned from somewhere and this world view was fostered for decades…. Who do we blame for all this?

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