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I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I'm asking the people who know better than Google.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Why did they bold the line about the left wanting to dismantle the IMF, NATO, etc? It certainly wasn't because it was telling users to wage ideological war, it was to highlight unacceptable ideology.

Stop sealioning.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

They actually didn't bold it lol. But let's assume you meant "include".

Why did hexbear include it in their announcement? Why highlight an ideology they want to target while specifically telling their userbase, who they acknowledge are trolls, to try and play nice during the propaganda war on this new (to them) instance? Could it be that they are manufacturing an archetype of the average Lemmy World user?

Why would Lemmy World admins want to sign up for that? And why do you keep pretending that they just wanted to federate and be chill?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

They did bold it:

It isn't bolded in the original text:

Either you're lying, like you keep accusing everyone else, or you don't care enough about the truth to check. In both cases it's clear you're sealioning.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

the line about the left wanting to dismantle the IMF, NATO, etc

Literally nothing in that line is bolded. Maybe get your eyes checked?

Or I'm right, and you do lie about things you post for some reason.

In both cases it’s clear you’re sealioning

I thought you might not know what that meant, but now I know you don't.

Notice you have nothing to say about the actual meat of what I said though. And we all know why that is.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I showed you images of them bolding the part about the left's interests in their quotations. You can drop the act, I posted photo evidence of it.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's try this again:

Why did hexbear include it in their announcement? Why highlight an ideology they want to target while specifically telling their userbase, who they acknowledge are trolls, to try and play nice during the propaganda war on this new (to them) instance? Could it be that they are manufacturing an archetype of the average Lemmy World user?

Why would Lemmy World admins want to sign up for that? And why do you keep pretending that they just wanted to federate and be chill?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, you already lied to my face about the bolding, which the Lemmy.world mods absolutely did. I'm not entertaining your sealioning or gaslighting.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So this is really all you have under the surface? Latch on to a throwaway when you can't argue with the substance?

For the audience: Lemmy World didn't want to federate with an instance of loud and proud Leftist shitposters, despite them pinky-swearing to play nice while achieving their goal of dismantling western propaganda on the instance and continuing their war on Liberals in the fediverse.

Cowbee says this is because Lemmy World hates Communists, not just communities that are obsessed with their political ideology, shitpost and "dunk" all day, and feel a sense of duty to purge Lemmy World of its evil politics and replace them with their own.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the audience, which thus far seems to be no more than 3 people all agreeing with me, you were caught lying and then pretended to my face that you couldn't see the irrefutable proof I gave, then dodged every question because you can't actually engage with the substance of the argument after slandering me and insulting me over and over again.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I already told you, you're wrong about the bolding. I say you're lying, you say I'm lying, why keep debating it? It was a throwaway jab.

Unless of course that's literally the last and final straw you have to grasp at.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Again, the .world thread:

Hexbear thread:

Shows the bolding plain as day. You can even look at the .world thread in markdown and see the "**" on the outside, indicating the bolding. It's incredibly easy to admit you're wrong here.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shows the bolding plain as day.

Sure does! And the bullet you mentioned about IMF, NATO, etc has no bolding. Even in the source!

Why this, the equivalent of me saying you made a typo, is the hill you want to die on is becoming clearer by the moment. :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both "dismantle western propaganda" and "It is in the Left's interest for these organizations to be demolished" were bolded by the .world admins to emphasize it. Really don't know what you're doing here beyond sealioning.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

-Jean-Paul Sartre

Applies pretty well to you. You're aware of the absurdity of your replies, the game is the point for you.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know what, you're so hungry for it, I'll concede this point. You were right, ~~it should have been "your" not "you're"~~ those were were the ones that were highlighted.

I'll put a little trophy right next to your username :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really don't know what the point of any of this was beyond proving my points.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well you also ignored mine to fixate on which bullets were bolded, so there's that! Big day!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You never had any points, and lied whenever I brought any up specifically to avoid engaging with mine. I brought up that they bolded the point about the left needing to demolish NATO, the IMF, etc. as a means to show that this is ideologically incompatible with Lemmy.world. You lied, even in face of photo evidence, to avoid answering my question on why they did that. It's dishonest, and is why there's no point in arguing with points you raise because you won't take any response seriously.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You never had any points

Wrong.

and lied whenever I brought any up

Also wrong.

avoid answering my question on why they did that

Wow, wrong again. And again. And again.

You lied, even in face of photo evidence

Wrong too.

It’s dishonest, and is why there’s no point in arguing with points you raise because you won’t take any response seriously.

Cute grandstanding.

I've answered your question and invited you to respond to that answer several times now. But you've just continued to dodge. But sure, you're the pinnacle of serious, honest debate.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, you directly lied in the face of evidence and claimed no bolding happened. You're fully aware of the absurdity of your replies, any treatment of your "points" as anything other than the trolling they've been would be fruitless.

Not a single person has agreed with you here.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"It is in the Left's interest for these organizations to be demolished" is bolded. That is the line Cowbee is referring to, "these organizations" are "organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank" as written in the previous bullet point.

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