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To be fair, 700M in subsidies was supposed to have a return on investment. Though, it didn't.
700M in free busses would not bring a return on investment except for just generally improving the quality of society. Which I still think is better, but we do have to consider that from their point of view.
Edit: please stop replying to this comment with counterarguments, I agree with all of you and was just trying to say how it might be seen. This is getting obnoxious. I wrote it wrong and now people think I'm a capitalist cuck lmao
I don't think we need to have an either or mentality. We need to break out of the idea that things need a perfect, direct ROI. That just reinforces financial overlords to do layoffs and to favor capital and the rich.
$700M in free busses could open up a world of happier people, access to better jobs and better Healthcare through better access.
There is more to ROI than direct financial returns, and we have to get out of the language of the venture capitalist. You say that it is "just generally improving the quality of a society". That IS a return on investment. And it's more important in my mind than a financial gain. We need to start treating happiness like it's something worth pursuing. We say money can't buy happiness, but then base all our decision making on money like it's the key to everything.
You aren't wrong, but you need to remember that a lot of people don't give a shit about helping other people. Any argument that uses "good for people" as the basis of argument is going to fail with them.
Who gives a fuck. If someone rejects the premise that good for people isn't good policy, fuck em. I'm tired of pretending their opinion matters.
Sorry to be spicy but like... I just don't think we need to validate them or pay attention. Let's build something not placate them.
Are you aware that their vote counts as much as yours? And many of them are in Congress, so their vote counts for a lot more than yours?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to simply excise people without basic empathy from any role of leadership or influence. But until we do that, we have to deal with them.