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[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 196 points 18 hours ago (39 children)

A reminder that these chats are being monitored

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 59 points 18 hours ago (29 children)

Still, what are they gonna do to a million suicidal people besides ignore them entirely

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (18 children)

Well, AI therapy is more likely to harm their mental health, up to encouraging suicide (as certain cases have already shown).

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Real therapy isn’t always better. At least there you can get drugs. But neither are a guarantee to make life better—and for a lot of them, life isn’t going to get better anyway.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Are you comparing a professional to a text generator?

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Have you ever had ineffective professional therapy?

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Are you still trying to compare medical treatment with generating text?

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Compare, as in equal? No. You can’t “game” a person (usually) like you can game an AI.

Now, answer my question

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point.

A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input.

No reasoning. No knowledge.

Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island.

Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point.

So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation.

I wish you the best in your therapy.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

I wish you the best in talking to the calculator.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Real therapy is definitely better than an AI. That said, AIs will never encourage self harm without significant gaming.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

AI “therapy” can be very effective without the gaming, but the problem is most people want it to tell them what they want to hear. Real therapy is not “fun” because a therapist will challenge you on your bullshit and not let you shape the conversation.

I find it does a pretty good job with pro and con lists, listing out several options, and taking situations and reframing them. I have found it very useful, but I have learned not to manipulate it or its advice just becomes me convincing myself of a thing.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, and to the comment above you, it's not because it's guaranteed to reduce symptoms. There are many ways that talking with another person is good for us.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

The keyword here is "person".

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