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What Graham Platner Said When a Trans Mainer Asked: 'Will You Stand Up for Me?'
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Haha, not at all. You can review my comments if you want. I'm a person who is interested in having proof and facts instead of assumptions. I am of course worried about fake progressives and people like Fetterman, but deciding the conclusion and molding to facts to match it is exactly how we get people believing in nonsense.
I listen fairly often to a debunk/analyzing show of Alex Jones called Knowledge Fight. They also sometimes review others. I also listen to Know Rogan, which is a similar show critically analyzing Joe Rogan, as well as several other skeptical podcasts etc. Something they all and I as well agree on is we shouldn't work off of preconceived notions like the subjects of their shows do, but instead make sure our assertions are backed up with evidence and truth. As I said, you have every right to be worried; that isn't my criticism.
However, if you just do the same thing the worst right wing influencers do by making a decision and then making any minor difference to how you assume they should respond mean your preconceived notion is correct, how do you convince people that when the ring wing does it, it's wrong, but when you do it, it's right?
You sound exactly like an ML trying to crush the United States by dismissing anyone who questions the intention of the politicians that you want elected.
If you actually were worried about fake politicians like Fetterman, you would be taking this guy a little bit more seriously. There are a lot of red flags around him – and while I’m not saying we should write him off entirely… I’m saying his words matter and you are saying his words do not.
You’re also quickly accusing me of conspiracy theory which is a telltale sign of your actual intentions. What a joke.
I mean, I'm a black American living in Georgia. Acceleration would mean my death, probably faster than most. To me you sound like exactly what you're accusing me of. I'm not specifically defending this politician, but your accusations are wild and you act like you're certain. While I did compare your statement to the like of conspiracy theory, you're also saying I'm Republican, then militant left. While I can have some things I agree with those further left than I, I stand only to have negative repercussions for being accelerationist, and I do truly wish we can survive without collapse. Whether it can actually happen at this point is a point of doubt, but I'm nowhere to to point of wanting a collapse.
I've never owned a gun, never fired one, and am rather hesitant to hurt people, even if they're reprehensible. I honestly don't know how I'd survive collapse. It's a self serving position for me to not want collapse, and I also believe people can change. I don't know if this guy has, but I'd rather not make up role for him to hang himself; if he's a problem he should be judged by not imagined faults, but confirmed ones. You still have the right to not choose him, just be careful that you don't let preconceived opinions dictate how you judge everyone.
I would very strongly suggest that you reconsider your stance on guns. You may not want to hurt other people to protect yourself, but there are surely other people in your community that need someone to stand with and for them. I think we all hope that the day never comes that it's necessary, but I think that the quote I heard was, "si vis pacem, para bellum."
I know a few people in the north Georgia area that are quite welcoming to new people. I can suggest at least one trainer out in Rome. There are a few gun stores that don't seem to be full of Trump shit. Unfortunately, I didn't ever get south of Atlanta, so if you're in e.g. Macon or Savannah, I don't know anyone directly.
BTW - I've heard him speak in person. I've seen how Platner dealt with MAGA hecklers. I think that his solutions are simplistic, because the system is wildly complex, but I think he's got the right ideas. If he's undercover as a Nazi, he sure as shit as me fooled.
Ah, I'm not arguing against having a gun as a progressive or anything, but part of me doesn't trust me with a gun. I probably won't have an issue, but I play with stuff a little too much. I have stabbed myself and slashed myself with knives. Not in a suicidal way; in both cases it was curiosity but I made sure to use somewhere safe (slash was not near any major veins or vessels and was light, stab was less intentional and was testing a safety function of the knife but went in a small bit on my leg).
I feel like I'll be careful enough, but 5% of me worries I'll play with the gun inappropriately somehow. My current roommate(one of my sisters) is also uncomfortable with guns, so that somewhat affects my decision too.
That said, I'm in agreement with a lot of what you said, and I've been moving more to the side of maybe I should. As for where I am, I'm in Decatur, fairly close to ATL, and quite a few of my friends do have guns so I do have people I can talk to about practice.
I’m going to stop with I’m A black America living in Georgia.
Prove it, goodbye.
No one believes my lived experiences either and "prove it" isn't you're prerogative. They did, but seriously, this is a trash demand.
Oh look another ML. You guys love to swarm
And you really like to lump everyone together so you can stereotype them and blanket dismiss them to avoid and ignore any actual productive engagement.
No, Maeve is an ML. And having a productive engagement is not actually possible with an ML. There is a very scripted playbook
Let me just double check here, by ML are you meaning users from lemmy.ml? Or something else?
Yes, but more about the “Marxist Propaganda Crush The West At Any Cost” type of ML, not necessarily anyone from that domain.