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Summary

Donald Trump falsely claimed he had approval ratings of 69% and 71%, despite no public poll supporting those figures.

Recent surveys from Pew, Quinnipiac, Gallup, and others place his approval below 50%, with some showing him underwater.

Trump has a history of dismissing unfavorable polls as “fake” and even sued a news organization over poll results.

Experts suggest his political success relies on maintaining the illusion of widespread support despite declining approval ratings.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 113 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We've passed the point months, years ago ...

The idiot is not Turnip .... America is the collective idiot that puts up with all this shit and accepts it

I no longer think of him as dumb ... I think of the entire US government and its people as collectively stupid for making all this possible.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

https://archive.is/7NT83

September 6, 2003

Nearing the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq's Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks, even though the Bush administration and congressional investigators say they have no evidence of this.

Sixty-nine percent of Americans said they thought it at least likely that Hussein was involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according to the latest Washington Post poll. That impression, which exists despite the fact that the hijackers were mostly Saudi nationals acting for al Qaeda, is broadly shared by Democrats, Republicans and independents.

US citizens are and have been fucking stupid. They don't even need propaganda to believe stupid shit.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Half the country has about a sixth grade reading comprehension level...so you definitely aren't wrong.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Dismantling public education has been deliberate, so has the expansion of right-wing propaganda to all forms of media. Both are done at the behest of capital owners to divide the working class

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The White House spent months alleging a connection. It proves how little Americans understood about Iraq or Al Qaeda that they thought they would collude

Exactly, Hussein was running a secular government while Al Qaeda were religious extremists pushing for religious rule.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

You think there wasn’t propaganda pushing that view?

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

What a fucking man-child

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’d be surprised if he has that approval rating in his own family.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

There were a lot of insider stories after the apprentice TV show wrapped. Apparently, Ivanka and Don2 are not very nice to him or about him.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, there's a solid chance his handlers are just giving him fake poll numbers and shit to keep him busy anyway. He's a fucking toddler, this dude isn't reading the news. He gets a piece of paper that says "EVERYONE LOVES YOU, 89% APPROVAL" along with another Photoshop of him on some magazine every morning to make him feel like a big boy.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He is not just a toddler, he almost definitely has dementia and likely is also abusing some sort of stimulant.

https://jmp.sh/s/9jyaWJXAEgkpsBFeEKmE

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you ever seen the Reagan lights out video?

He's asked a question and they turn out the lights, turn off his mic and he spontaneously utters "my handlers told me not to answer that". He's Regan just with yes men that egg on the dementia rambles as genius 4d chess you need to be in the know to understand.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, and I can't seem to find it. Got a source?

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He is pathological narcissist liar, and has always been so. He doesn't need handlers to give him fake poll numbers. He will happily create them on the spot.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

tldr: He lies.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guy has the most fragile ego on the planet.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It's a toss-up between him and President Musk.

[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

This just in: fascist dictator wannabe lies with reckless abandon.

[–] twjolson@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imagine how stupid and unimaginative you'd have to create your own approval rating and go with a number as low as 70%.

Aim higher Donny, aim higher.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago

Surprised he didn't go with his famous 110%. Why not, anyone that believes him won't fact check or point out you can't have a 110% approval rate. 🤷

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why is this surprising? Everything he says is "people say", "they say", "polls say", etc without ever specifying who these "people" are.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, these people do have different voices, and he can hear them all the time - he just doesn't know that it's his thoughts, cause he's to fucking dumb to realise it.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'll say that, at this point, you can't even blame that fucking asshole. You can blame partisan media for not fact-checking this basic shit and having their dipshit viewers lap it up. It's broken beyond repair.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are we looking at the same article? This piece is literally a fact check.

This idea of fact checks being the antidote to trumpian fascism is straight from 2015. No amount of fact checking or "facts and logic" will slow fascism, and the roaring success of Trump's campaign despite countless debate moderator fact checks, community notes, and politifacts should make that very clear.

You need to abandon this liberal idea that Americans turn fascist only because they have yet to be shown the "data" or "facts". Liberalism is the idea that sitting a fascist down and showing them facts, logics, charts, statistics, and expert testimony will somehow magically convert them into a leftist.

The leftists framework is that fascism is the result of worsening material conditions and withering away of social safety nets, and the only way to fight fascism is to change material conditions or kill fascists. This is in direct contrast with liberalism - which posits that the ever-evolving, self-correcting marketplace of ideas is the end-all extinguisher of fascism. Look where that got us....

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Are we looking at the same article? This piece is literally a fact check.

I think the guy you're responding to was making a statement about the lack of fact-checking in the media in general, not with this piece in particular.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

So facts and receipts are out.

Please assure me heckling and laughter isn't off the table. I need something.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oh, there is more than enough blame to go around.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Wasn't Obama's inauguration crowd bigger than both of his, combined?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ministry of TruthSocial*

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I heard the actual approval rating was closer to 420%.

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure that's what Musk thinks his is.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I heard he shot 38 under, including 11 holes-in-one, at a 7,700-yard championship course

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

¯\(ツ)

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it wasn’t for all the dead democrats who hate him he’d have a 98-99% approval rating.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

Remove all the illegals voting for disapproval and he'd be at 120% approval!

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah? Well MY approval rating is a gazillion percent!

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

To be fair, Elon has been 69-ing him

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like something he would do.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Oh that's not the approval rating of Americans, that's the approval rating between the people licking Trump's asshole right now.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well I mean, he probably says he has a 13" wang too.