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It seems that there are a lot of Israelis that believe that there are no innocents in Gaza. And one could argue that it's possible that a significant majority of the population is hateful towards Israelis, considering the history.

If you agree with this argument, can you please explain why and elaborate? And if you don't, how would you refute it? There is no data that shows that there isn't a significant majority that's hateful towards the Israelis.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not stating my opinion as I want to hear an unbiased opinion from you.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's an extreme perspective and an oversimplification. So necessarily wrong if you state it this way... Neither do all people in Israel seem to support this, nor is "innocent" any attribute that fits the purpose. Technically like a newborn baby should be pretty much innocent. An adult may not, even if it's just an act of omission. But it's not really a philosophical question in this case, is it? And it's not even what this is about. So I'd say that sentence is immediately wrong on technicalities.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 points 22 hours ago

It can be valid, it surely doesn't apply to Gaza.

We are "all" guilty because we knowingly pollute, for example, and that kills people. And we buy products and that finance Israel bombs. And we fight for survival and strangle our jailer that just landed that job to feed his family and never got quality education to choose a different career.

I am more of the idea that there are no truly guilty in a strict sense. We as a society share the responsibility to handle the now extended knowledge we have and we are basically not even trying.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca -1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The way I see it, the only truly innocent people are those who sincerely do not know right from wrong, and they're mostly children. The rest of us are each and all responsible for our choices and actions.

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[–] Atin@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

It is most definitely used the other way around.

Personally I disagree with it. Hamas, however needs to be held accountable to October 7th.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

This one is just projection. To believe this statement denies there are plenty of people who are innocent on both sides. We are not talking about those people.

We are talking about the people who hate the other side on both sides, but once again we aren't talking about both sides here. One side has made the statement popular to dehumanize the other side.

This is what we are talking about. You can't agree with this statement because it is used as an excuse to kill people. Regardless if the statement has truth to it it is in essence propaganda used to manipulate people.

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