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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (14 children)

This is one stupid product. It really goes against everything the framework brand has identified with.

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[–] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Now, can we have a cool European company doing similar stuff? At the rate it's going I can't decide whether I shouldn't buy American because I don't want to support a fascist country or because I'm afraid the country might crumble so badly that I can't count on getting service for my device.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's kinda cool but seems a bit expensive at this moment.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Much like their laptops, I'm all for the idea, but what makes this desirable by those of us with no interest in AI?

I'm out of that loop though I get that AI is typically graphics processing heavy, can this be taken advantage of with other things like video rendering?

I just don't know exactly what an AI CPU such as the Ryzen AI Max offers over a non-AI equivalent processor.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's lots of workstation niches that are gated by VRAM size, like very complex rendering, scientific workloads, image/video processing... It's not mega fast, but basically this can do things at a reasonable speed that you'd normally need a $20K+ computer to even try. Like, if something takes hours on an A6000 Ada or an A100, just waiting overnight on one of these is not a big deal. Cashing or failing to launch on a 4090 or 7900 XTX is.

That aside, the IGP is massively faster than any other integrated graphics you'll find. It's reasonably power efficient.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

and more at people who want the smallest, most powerful desktop they can build

Well, there's this:

Yeah, the screw holes didn't fit, that's why. And the cooler didn't fit the case, obviously. And the original cooler not the CPU's turbo. It's fine, it still runs most games in 3k on the iGPU.

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[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

These little buggers are loud, right?

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 3 days ago

To anyone complaining about non-replaceable RAM: This machine is for AI, that is why.

Think of it like a GPU wirh a CPU on the side, vs the other way around.

Inference requires very fast ram transfer speed, and that is only possible (currently) on soldered buses. Even this is pretty slow at 256Gb/s, but it's RAM size of 96GB to GPU makes it interesting for larger models.

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