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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And You know what's even worse? They did it a second time. After he fucked them over the first time.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 123 points 1 day ago (22 children)

To be fair, we have a former actor and comedian as the president. The difference is he isn't a fascist piece of human garbage, not so much in the career paths.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I ponder that sometimes. I wonder if a comedian has made such a solid leader because a comedian's role to society is to speak truths that go unheard, and to make unbearable times bearable. I find myself questioning if every leader shouldn't be a comedian

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Reminds me of this character in Watchmen. Calls himself the Comedian, but never makes "jokes" in a classical sense. He is cruel, overly patriotic, violent against protesters, seems to enjoy massacres in Vietnam. Only one other person understands that he is actually against these things and tries to show them this hyperbolic mirror of their own totalitarian views. But everybody else doesn't understand it, they take it face value and admire his "patriotism". He never breaks role until the last moment (or even then just in the movie?).

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Entirely Unironically:

AOC for Pres, Jon Stewart for Vice Pres, 2028.

This campaign would stand a chance at actually winning.

AOC and Stewart are both well known, basically celebrities.

AOC is actually capable of recreating the mix of genuine charisma combined with well articulated, meaningful actual policy points that Obama did in 07.

Jon Stewart is obviously no stranger to politics, and is possibly the literally ideal 'attack dog' that the VP usually plays in a campaign, for an anti corporate / billionaire campaign.

Let AOC be as principled and erudite as JFK and Stewart be as cutting and 'no bullshit' as Lyndon Jonhson.

...

Are either of them perfect?

No.

Are they basically the best possible options?

Well, Bernie is awesome, but he's too old.

Absolutely utilize him as much as possible during the campaign, be at every rally, fucking have him be the head of a leftist version of what Elon is, god knows by the time 2028 rolls around, the executive will have formally and informally assumed way too much power.

Put Bernie in charge of purging the Trump/Elon pukes, directing the revokation or countermanding of everyone of Trump's executive orders, undoing Citizens United, and reassembling the checks and balances.

...

Other than that... are any other democrats or leftists anywhere near as well known and widely, generally liked by non fascists? Who aren't bought and paid for by corpos?

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Some surveys seem to support that this direction could have worked. As a German, I supported the course of the Democrats to go with a presidential candidate and policies that democratic conservatives could get behind. About half of the voters in the US want less democracy, more totalitarianism. For a chance to stop Trump, it seemed reasonable just get all supporters of freedom and democracy behind a single candidate. But maybe I was wrong.

I have my doubts that there will be an election in 2028.

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[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Ya know, this sounds downright plausible. More so than any other ticket I can imagine anyway, middle-of-the-road corporate democrats sure are played out, but hey, from what I understand the Dems literally argued after the election about whether they didn't go left enough or didn't go "center" enough, so.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it might be part that and part the fact that the war happened in the first place. Like, before the full scale invasion, he really wasn't that remarkable. But I guess sometimes hard times do actually make strong men.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah but plenty of leaders have been absolute shit under pressure is kind of my point

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If we traveled back in time 10 years and started showing people these headlines, they'd put us in a mental hospital.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

they should call him PUS instead of POTUS.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Putin's Orange ~~Teenager~~ Toddler Undermining Stability

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's also a cryptocurrency term, so it kinda fits.

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[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

a large portion of the electorate doesn't choose anything. they do what their televisions command them. who controls the targeted messaging platforms which have been poisoning people's minds? they are the real enemies of The People.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nevermind the consequences of gerrymandering, targeted disenfranchisement, and winner take all electioneering.

Trump won the GOP primary in 2016 in no small part because our electoral system rewards name recognition over policy or popular support.

You either submit to media manipulation or you are statistically removed from the voting rolls.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey the best people are the ones who toe the line

Let's not pretend it was ever anything different

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 22 hours ago

My understanding is that Obama encouraged frank expression of different opinions in the Cabinet. Not every leader values blind obedience.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago
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