The only thing Proton has going for it that Tuta does not is the .onion site and even that constantly leaks to clearweb so fuck'em.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
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I still don't know how to feel about Proton, even with an early (and continued) email presence there. Reddit? I see this post because of lemmy.world and fedia.
I did weeks of work migrating every password and email address to proton. Sucks the stances they are taking but now I’m kinda stuck, and it’s still better than Google.
Bittwarden or KeyPassXC are good self-hosteable alternatives.
Yeah but without email aliases it would not be worth it
Bitwarden integrates directly with several email alias providers: https://bitwarden.com/blog/add-privacy-and-security-using-email-aliases-with-bitwarden/
That might be worth it. Is bitwarden self hosted FOSS?
It is.
Tuta has a catch-all option that you could consider. Makes it so you can make any email address under your domain and it'll get to your mailbox.
What do you mean by email aliases?
Every account I have on the internet has a unique randomly generated email that forwards to my real email.
iCloud and Proton are the two big names that support this. It’s invaluable.
I've been using neomailbox for almost 10 years for this, so maybe check them out
There are other options for email aliases. iCloud has a pretty robust system, and its ubiquity makes it less likely to be filtered.
If it’s an unknown or less popular service they are less likely to add it to a blacklist IME
True, but that’s defense by concealment. If they notice the domain, they can block it without harming their business. My argument is that iCloud is too large for them to block.
People have still blocked my iCloud.
What do you mean by that?
They have given me errors when trying to register with a hidden iCloud email.
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Well, read comments under their latest posts on Mastodon. Solid shitstorm of 9 Beaufort since more than a month.
Proton doing shady proton things again. Who would have guessed that.
If they aren't getting much traction somewhere, but are spending outsized resources there, it makes sense to redirect the manhours elsewhere.