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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Do they really need a team of people to post the same thing to X, Mastodon, BkueSky, etc? I'm honestly surprised they don't have some bot to make all the posts for them to those services. Sounds like a cop out to me.

[–] fieryhamster007@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Exactly. If they need help maybe someone could create something so they can post to BlueSky, Matrix, Lemmy, and Mastadon at same time soon. Also set it up for the up and coming Flashes and Pixelfed.

[–] dan00@lemm.ee 38 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Such delicate snowflakes these ceos…

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 41 minutes ago

I do think the second part of your statement was unnecessary.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

*member of the board

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 42 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Ouch! They really are working hard on getting any privacy oriented person to leave them.

I'm glad I have moved away from them.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 17 points 7 hours ago

fleeing to reddit of all place, banning any instance of discourse, much like facebook is now.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, where did you move from Proton?

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

I was using mainly the emails from proton, I moved to mailbox.

At one point I was planning on moving my drive and VPN with them but their Linux support was really lacking, especially the CLI support so I've never done it and I'm glad I didn't.

For the VPN I'm using Mullvad integrated with tailscale, for the drive in using my own synology NAS and tailscale to connect to it.

[–] mok0@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

@mailbox_org@mailbox_org@mastodon.social are running their own mastodon server and it's an excellent mail service provider. @Tutanota@mastodon.social are also present on Mastodon and is likewise an excellent mail service provider.

[–] Chonk@lemmy.world 38 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

What kind of expensive resources you need to just post on Mastodon?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

ability to silence, and censor or criticism,?-proton probably

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Mastodon has that too, so Wonder why leave Mastodon at all

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They can't control all the instances. I think that if they tried that with the one that I am on they would be laughed at.

Way easier for a company to make its own reddit and censor any post that talks about why you should probably start to look at moving your data before they are quietly asked to hand over all the data they have.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Makes sense

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

Whoever posts on reddit can copy paste to other platforms, if they are to lazy to use a software that consolidates it for them.

[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 hours ago

i disagree as there are plenty of tools to post to multiple platforms at once. but yea if they were so kind to actually interact then yes

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Glad I was always suspicious of Proton.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not, they are a bunch of researchers having their servers in the country with the most privacy protective laws in the world.

Sure, criticise them when they do bad things, but what do you propose, google mail (etc.)?

If you don't have some real information you are just following a gut feeling (which by the way is the simplest to manipulate) and I think that is kind of curious actually.

I like Proton, I have their email & VPN, works like a charm, and their servers are in nuke safe bunkers in the swiss mountains.

The only other company that I have seen that isn't shady like for sure seems to be Mullvad, I mean if you hate the swiss or something or prefer the swedes ...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago

Hard to claim manipulation when the leadership team is taking a machine gun to their feet.

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago

On the other hand, the red flag is a big plus.

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

From the statement on their webpage: " We believe in people before profits, and our primary shareholder is the non-profit Proton Foundation whose mission is to fight for an open internet that promotes freedom of speech and freedom of information."

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Well this is certainly one of the decisions of all time. I guess we finally got our reaction from the board. I was waiting, hoping to hear some rebuke of Yen’s bullshit. Didn’t expect another intentional step into shit. Bye Felicia.

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 24 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Welp, I guess I'm switching to Tuta now.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Use Disroot

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 10 hours ago

I just set up a paid account on Tuta today replacing my paid Proton account.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Everyone recommends Tuta in these threads.

I just (finally) had a look at their pricing. Seems egregiously expensive? 6EUR / user / month for their cheapest business plan is a bit nuts

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 13 points 10 hours ago

That’s what Microsoft 365 Business Basic, Google Workspace Starter, and Proton Mail Essentials are all priced at. Seems like the market price to me

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 95 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Pointing people to reddit, as if that's an alternative. When a VPN provider makes such bad choices it's tempting to imagine that the decision was influenced by somebody who wants to secretly get the message out that the company is no longer to be trusted, because it's hard to see any other logic in it.

Reddit has a ton of users. Mastodon is marginal.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That word has truly lost all meaning.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Switched to Mullvad for VPN, Baikal for calendar and contacts, Tuta for professional mail, and considering Bitwarden or Buttercup for a password manager

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 9 points 10 hours ago

I use Bitwarden coming from LastPass. It's great for me and my fam.

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[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 85 points 17 hours ago (10 children)
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