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[–] Chonk@lemmy.world 41 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

What kind of expensive resources you need to just post on Mastodon?

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

Whoever posts on reddit can copy paste to other platforms, if they are to lazy to use a software that consolidates it for them.

[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago

i disagree as there are plenty of tools to post to multiple platforms at once. but yea if they were so kind to actually interact then yes

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 22 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Glad I was always suspicious of Proton.

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

From the statement on their webpage: " We believe in people before profits, and our primary shareholder is the non-profit Proton Foundation whose mission is to fight for an open internet that promotes freedom of speech and freedom of information."

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 34 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Well this is certainly one of the decisions of all time. I guess we finally got our reaction from the board. I was waiting, hoping to hear some rebuke of Yen’s bullshit. Didn’t expect another intentional step into shit. Bye Felicia.

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 27 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Welp, I guess I'm switching to Tuta now.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone recommends Tuta in these threads.

I just (finally) had a look at their pricing. Seems egregiously expensive? 6EUR / user / month for their cheapest business plan is a bit nuts

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 15 points 14 hours ago

That’s what Microsoft 365 Business Basic, Google Workspace Starter, and Proton Mail Essentials are all priced at. Seems like the market price to me

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Much rather not maintain any email in any way.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you are no longer available to function in today's society

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think their comment was tongue in cheek :) like they're saying you need to pay for server maintenance

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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 14 hours ago

I just set up a paid account on Tuta today replacing my paid Proton account.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 101 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Pointing people to reddit, as if that's an alternative. When a VPN provider makes such bad choices it's tempting to imagine that the decision was influenced by somebody who wants to secretly get the message out that the company is no longer to be trusted, because it's hard to see any other logic in it.

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[–] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 89 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 17 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

I'm searching for a safe and cheap alternative for my own domain, but it's hard! And I don't want to give money to American companies.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Tuta is €3.60 a month or €3 a month if you pay for an entire year (€36) not sure if that's "cheap" in your budget.

A .com domain is like $12 per year

Tuta takes like 48 hours to respons, slower than Proton who takes about 12-24 hours, but as long as the response is under 1 week, its fine by me.

I have only been using Tuta for like a month, still not sure if I'm staying tho...

There's also Mailbox.org which is also about €3 a month, which doesn't have encryption by default and they don't have an official opensource client. (Tuta has their client on F-Droid)

[–] SorteKanin 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Tuta takes like 48 hours to respons, slower than Proton who takes about 12-24 hours, but as long as the response is under 1 week, its fine by me.

Are you talking about support request response time here? Or what response time?

Support response time. In my experience, Proton usually responds faster.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 155 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

This might sound crazy but this is way worse to me than the CEO simping for orange man. At least for Trump he has a semi plausible excuse.

Reposting stuff on Mastodon or Bluesky barely requires any additional effort. And I cannot think of a good reason to close abandon the free publicity when they already have it set up.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yea this is worse. The politics thing could be brushed off as Andy Yen being uneducated on American politics. Moving away from an already established fediverse platform is contradictory to Proton's mission. It doesn't take more than a minute to copy paste their xitter posts to Mastadon.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 43 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

And I’d have thought the potential customers segment are exactly the Mastodon users.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think the reason is that every time they post something, someone there points out the Andy Yen thing. Thats basically the only comments. So its detrimental to their business.

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[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 29 points 19 hours ago
[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 300 points 1 day ago (77 children)

After Andy Yen's endorsement of the orange utan, I would seriously reconsider using any Proton product.

Yen tried to backpedal meekly several times since then, to get out of the pickle he got himself into with his definitely-not-impressed customers, but it's a bit late for that: either he's pro-Trump or he's naive. Either way, he makes Proton sketchy.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Idc if I likes Trump or not (even though Trump is garbage); but I do care that he says the Republicans - the party that has spent years attacking encryption and privacy, who has sued to obtain private medical records of women and trans people who see doctors, and who is funded by billionaire big tech moguls - is the better option for privacy.

Also just taking ANY position for a leader of the US - one of the biggest parties to the Five Eyes agreement - just leaves a bad taste.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Switched to Mullvad for VPN, Baikal for calendar and contacts, Tuta for professional mail, and considering Bitwarden or Buttercup for a password manager

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 9 points 14 hours ago

I use Bitwarden coming from LastPass. It's great for me and my fam.

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, that's so many different services to splinter one Proton account into. I was thinking about it too, but that sounds exhausting.

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[–] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 157 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not even Bluesky, they went straight to Reddit. Shame.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 63 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's a sad day when "you can find us over on Discord" is a better option.

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 21 points 21 hours ago

At least reddits getting selfaware enough that every other post is ppl getting mad at ppl telling them to google since those posts are what they find off google, or they've already googled and found nothing.
The immediate assumption that everyone is an idiot who hasnt tried to google is annoying but used to be valid, ppl got lazy there (including me) and would just ask questions that were easily googleable, the issue is those posts are now first on google and none of them have answers lol

[–] rarbg@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago
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