Meanwhile RFK Jr. is like "It's one child Michael, what could it cost? 10 dollars? "
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We did it, America! From the brink of eradication all the way to killing children in Texas in around a decade! We're number one! We're number one!
I swear I might actually punch someone if I hear them talking about kids dying "with" measles vs. "from".
Oh jeez, that is terrible. I cannot imagine.
For the love of Pete, get yourself and your loved ones VACCINATED.
At least they didn't get autism.
But the ticket, take the ride!
I feel sorry for the kid, but at the same time, I hope the funeral is the most painful, drawn out event for their parents, that everyone who comes lets them know exactly whose fault it is that their child is dead. I hope it's a learning experience for them.
Unfortunately, no one in the antiVax is going to change their minds until it hits them very close. That kids first cousins might, maybe, get vaxed. More likely, they'll blame it on the hospital, or the flu.
Even if they're willing to admit that the vaccination would have saved his life they're going to be torn getting their other children vaccinated because of the possible negatives they think could happen. In their view it's a slight chance of death versus guaranteed autism.
I bet if you go ask them right now they'll point out that colds Have death rates associated with them. Just another avoidable unavoidable tragedy.
They'll refuse to be reasoned with or educated. These people were literally taking horse dewormer and an attempt to avoid vaccines.
I don't think that wishing them extra pain is particularly useful. We're all mad at them but realistically they're just undereducated, obstinate, and programmed.
People who don't get vaccines are stupid.
They're not going to learn their lesson; they're going to think that it was a random act of God without explanation.
It is not an uncommon occurrence for evangelical extremists to tell you to be grateful your child or whoever is dead because they get to be with God. These people are mental.
As someone who grew up with this shit, after my sister died in an accident this is exactly what these nutters say.
And to make things worse, Bronzo the Clown installed that idiot Bobby Brainworms to validate their bullshit.
I suggest you educate yourself before you wish ill on people you know nothing about. That comment is absolutely vile.
Poverty And Lack Of Health Insurance Keep Kids Unvaccinated Too : Shots - Health News https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/20/724468630/the-other-reasons-kids-arent-getting-vaccinations-poverty-and-health-care-access
So where does it say in the original article that these parents didn't get their kid vaccinated because they couldn't afford it? I must've missed that. See I'm pretty sure it was because they deliberately chose to leave their kid vulnerable to infectious disease, but if you have evidence proving the contrary (not just an article saying "some people don't because they can't afford it" -- something actually relating to these specific parents who lost a child, demonstrating that they couldn't afford it), please, do enlighten me.
It doesnt.
It also doesnt say that the kid was the child of anti vax minnonites. It doesnt say that they were poor, or the closest hospital was 45 miles away and they had no car. It doesnt say they were a recent immigrant. That seams like easy ammunition for the right. Would be an easy way to demonize people if it were.
It doesnt say any of that.
It could have been. But you dont know. And neither do i.
See how that works?
All of that is true.
However, it does say where this kid died. In West Texas. Where there are large swathes of undervaccinated children because of their anti-vax parents.
See how that works? Or is the power of inference beyond you?
Inference in this case is only reinforcing your preconceptions and bias. There is no hard evidence in this article.
Wait. Hold up... i get what you are saying.
We dont like "the others" They are "the enemy" "They arent like us." "They should burn for their beliefs and what they do to the rest of us. " "They hurt our communities." "They sicken our people."
Your inference is reductive and crass. It is the excuse of homophobes and racists and facists across the god damn world.
But you didnt realize that at all, did you?
You are so caught up in being right and villifying a community with no actual evidence, that you forgot that there are sick and dying children.
Infer my ass. Where is your empathy?
Yeah, but that's what's fucked up a out all of this. It's a religious anti-Vax area that votes hard red. It's only spreading because it has some of the highest rates of unvacinnated kids, due to "religious" reasons. Even if it was a Healthcare access issue, they voted for the party currently trying to gut Medicaid.
While it's terribly sad for the children, this is consequences of the actions taken by the community.
I thought making blanket judgements about entire communities or groups of people is something we were supposed to think a little harder about.
And saying they deserve it is also something we are supposed to avoid.
Maybe by imposing my moral standard on others im not making the best argument, but i feel obligated to point it out.
Yeah this whole thread is a bit gross.
I mean the parents are stupid, perhaps even criminally negligent, but they were probably acting with the best of intentions and genuinely thought they were protecting their child. It's incredibly sad.
Show me where in the article it says the kid that died was from an anti vax family. It doesnt.
My point is, poverty and lack of health facilities play a huge role in kids not getting vaccinated. Its outlined in the article i replied with.
This whole thread is jumping to conclusions, extrapolating with no evidence, and condemning the parents of dead kids
It sounds familiar. It sounds. Kinda like... antivaxers.
The article talks about the safety of vaccines... Reporters have to walk on eggshells to avoid pointing fingers and insult part of their audience.
my degree was in journalism. In a past life i was a reporter. Shit job. I have had lots of shit jobs since. I completely understand what you are saying.
But, if they cant explicitly say it, then you probably shouldnt extrapolate. When the evidence is clear, then by all means evicerate whoever you want.
Just because the propoganda is something you agree with, doesnt mean it isnt propoganda. You have been given a roadmap, but you do not have evidence.
I also agree with your point. I know they cant say it out loud. But i draw the line at wishing ill on the parents of dead kids.
And once again, my point is, you dont know if the kid was part of the minnonite community that refuses vaccines, or if it was the neighbor kid. You do not know if there were other factors that prevented the kid getting that vaccine. Poverty, lack of healthcare, or an immunocompromised child.
The problem with that line of thinking is that soon enough it wasn't the parents fault but the fact that their dog died 5 years ago and they never got around to getting the vaccine. Might there be mitigating facts? Sure, but at the end of the day, it's either the parent's fault or the state's fault for not making sure the kid got vaccinated.
And btw immunocompromised children are rare enough to be a rounding error.
Murder charge for the parents. But of course that kinda thing can't be prevented. /s
it's ok, everyone. it was god's plan.
Increment Kennedy's body count again.
The vaccines wouldn't have helped!
They need more studies.
Not the last, unfortunately, and given MAGA voters lack of empathy for others, only those who suffer this completely avoidable loss might (or not) learn, and those who do learn will be ostracized by their fellow MAGA
At last, my child is safe from the perils of autism!
Abortion of a sperm isn't okay but aborting a kid years later is okay per REP-Red
Expect more of this.
Sad upvote.
Parents should be charged
Death cult.
Literally.
That child died because their parents are fucking morons. They should be held accountable.
Yup. Or if you don't vacate yourself or your children you shouldn't be allowed to travel, go to events, and you get medical care in a tent outside
As a person with a weakened immune system, I am totally with you on that.
But, you can’t restrict my freedom! I should still get the right to free travel AND the right to die of fully treatable disease, on top of my right to spread them to you! Fuck yeah, America, freedom, 2nd amendment!
Edit: and God and Trump!
Queue the childs parents: If only we'd known how dangerous measles was we'd have gotten our child vaccinated!
If only this country could’ve been founded by people who knew the heartbreak of losing a child to a preventable disease.
In 1736, I lost one of my sons, a fine boy of four years old, by the small-pox, taken in the common way. I long regretted bitterly, and still regret that I had not given it to him by inoculation. This I mention for the sake of parents who omit that operation, on the supposition that they should never forgive themselves if the child died under it: my example showing that the regret may be the same either way, and that, therefore, the safer should be chosen. -Benjamin Franklin
Or, more recently, the author Roald Dahl, who lost a daughter to measles in 1962.
In the letter he described his personal experience: "Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its course, I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it." She became disinterested in playing and within an hour was unconscious.[1] "Within twelve hours she was dead" he wrote.
This isn't relevant to your comment, but out of curiosity. Have i been using the wrong cue in this context? It is cue and not queue, right? Like cue ball or cue the music, meaning begin or start and not queue like lining up or waiting your turn?
The person you replied to should have used cue rather than queue.
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That poor kid. Easily preventable if they didn't have stupid parents. At what point can we hold the parents accountable?
We've done that up here, for parents trying to treat childhood illnesses with distilled water and kale smoothies. Parents went to jail, grandparents are raising the child, if I remember right.
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