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I think this is the sanest thing that has been said in the last couple of hours. I'm still recovering from the trump speech from yesterday, so not totally sure.

Higher profit margins.

Europeans get the bulk of cheaper and smaller EVs. Meanwhile in North America, Ford stopped selling sedans. It’s a niche that car makers could fill if they wanted to.

If I specifically don’t want touch screens, what then?

Western culture is built on delivering value to shareholders first and foremost.

That's why I snatched up a Bolt before Chevy (temporarily, they say) discontinued the line. I even did upgrade it a little to get heated/cooling front seats and a heated steering wheel plus the extra safety features. $32.5k with a $7.5k rebate from the federal Clean Vehicle Credit. So $25k for a car with a 175-280 mile range. (175ish in winter when the battery is less efficient, 280 in summer).

Of course the IRS fucked up the point of sale rebate when I was purchasing, but it's finally incoming with my taxes this year.

It's a combination of issues. In no particular order;

• precursor availability: All the stuff that EVs are made of, is made in China. If you want to build EVs it's easier and cheaper to get all the parts in China than it is in the US
• logistics: China has more modern roads, railroads, ports etc. That makes it much easier to get parts in and finished products out
• government aid: China has prioritized EVs for a long time and has all kinds of policies to encourage EV production
• EV infrastructure: China has more EV charging stations than the US and EU combined
• limited ICE competition: China doesn't have any big ICE vehicle companies. There are no significant groups in China advocating against EVs

Labor costs don't seem to be a factor at all. EVs are made in modern factories that are almost completely automated. The biggest part of "precursor availability" is likely batteries. The main innovation in EVs was the batteries. The electric motors, chassis, computers, etc are all secondary to batteries that can safely hold a lot of charge and discharge reliably. China dominates that market too.

I imagine China is subsidizing the R&D of their EVs while American car companies are trying to recoup those costs

Watch the Republicans start a civil war against themselves with the people who accept the buyout vs the ones "paying their dues" to their Lord and Savior.

Copyright removal on all Disney products. Role expiry date back to puss them off.

It's not about being competitive against Chinese EVs, it's about preventing China from attacking us economically, politically, and potentially even digitally.

These aren't just dumb vehicles, they're running Chinese made software, for a Chinese company, and reporting data back to China.

They're not just manufactured in China like you may have with other digital devices, with the software control and data residing in more friendly nations.

That matters.