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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 67 points 2 days ago (28 children)

The era of US-Canada being brothers in arms is over. I doubt US will be receiving any favors in the future without something in return. And if Canada chooses to expand their supply chains outside of the US, which they 100% should, there’ll be no coming back to a scale of trade as it exists today.

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[–] VacheronPatek@feddit.nl 144 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As an American- Agree. The dumbfucks in this country aren't going to understand they fucked up, until the pain kicks in.

[–] Drax_@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Except 2/3 of those states voted blue.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sucks, but that's where we are at. It's not like the majority of the Dems are doing anything to actually fight back against this. If blue states get hit too, it might actually get them moving.

[–] Drax_@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair point. I just wish they hit more red states.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 46 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Any foreigner should avoid visiting US or buying US products to put pressure too.

It is crazy to advocate for it, as I live in US, but this administration needs pressure from everywhere.

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

No offense but Trump would welcome these on highly liberal Minnesota and New York and be impartial to Michigan. These are not affecting conservative states.

[–] beanie@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It will affect the customers, who are rural. The states are blue, because of their cities, but the cities aren’t reliant on Canadian electricity. The rural areas are, and they vote red.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you really think the Trump supporters will connect the dots?

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

JD Vance showed how much he cares about rural communities in Hillbilly Eulogy. Rural Americans are just impressionable pawns to Trump and his ilk.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you have a source on that? I'd really expect they're all on the same grid.

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[–] Goblino@lemmy.studio 3 points 1 day ago

Makes you wonder if this is the first phase of what he meant about "blue states completely disappearing off the map" next year.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm certain he's doing it for the wrong reasons, but it's nice to see the angry raging conservative attacking a genuine asshole for once.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly he's even doing it for the right reasons. His country has been economically attacked. Not to respond would just make it worse.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I suspect he's playing it up for the camera in order to differentiate himself from American conservatives now that they've begun turning on Canada. It's something I imagine we'll see out of Poilievre as well, because otherwise they'll quickly become unelectable.

Just remember that they were chums all up until this point, and that's still damning. Ford supported American conservatives all the way until the leopards turned to eat his face. Yeah, it's cool that he's going above and beyond to fight back now, but he still wants Ontario to act like Texas.

[–] Superorbit@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about Poilievre. Imo he'll take a more moderate stance against MAGA if any at all. He's changed his stance recently, similar to Ford, but it felt a bit later and a bit weaker.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah Ford is a raging asshole so he's loud and combative. PP genuinely just seems like a little bitch puppet so even if he turns on MAGA, I don't think it will be as loud as this.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Not disagreeing at all. It's the standard right wing mode of operation, nothing matters until it affects them personally. It should be studied as a developmental disability.

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[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Glad Canada is sticking to I because they’re sending a message Trump that they’re not going to fuck around with him flipping the on/off switch on tariffs

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think the damage is done. I hope to never see American liquor in stores ever again.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't been to BCLs recently but I'm really hoping taking American liquor out means they've brought a better selection of our local stuff in cause we have some really great breweries and distilleries in BC and it's hard to find their stuff.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'm expecting more of that to come later along with more from other provinces.

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I’m American I agree. Your country doesn’t deserve our businesses if we have a dictator running our country

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[–] Septapus@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Do what you have to do it's all good. I'm going to be part of the brain drain in this country. My wife and I are POC we are guaranteed first class tickets to death camps or be made slaves for existing. Our populations have been marginalized and kicked in the ribs for centuries. We have no reason to fight or to 'stay and fix the country' any more than the German Jews of last century did. I don't want to be made responsible for what racist whites have enabled to happen in this country.

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[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 41 points 2 days ago

I'm ok with this and live in one of the affected states.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Life Pro Tips:

To USA Residents: If electricity is too expensive, you could always save money by shoplifting 😉 (go for the big corporate chains)

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like it, but I'm a little confused.

Why does an individual province determine trade policy? Is this normal for Canada?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The deal is between the provincial utility, which provides the electricity, and the state utility. In the USA, the federal government controls most resource rights. In Canada, it's the provinces. Comparatively, provinces are a lot more powerful than states are. As I understand it.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

~~I'm waiting for him to tear up the gd damn Starlink contract that he keeps threatening to do, but hasn't done.~~

He said he's ripped up the contact.

Drug Fraud isn't known for keeping his word.

[–] Superorbit@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Drug Fraud is hilarious 😂. I'm gonna use this later.

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ontario has already ripped up a $100-million deal with Elon Musk's SpaceX to bring Starlink's high-speed internet to rural and northern communities and remote First Nations.

Article claims it's already happened!

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