Tusk: Right now, 500 million Europeans are begging 300 million Americans for protection from 140 million Russians who have been unable to overcome 50 million Ukrainians for three years : europe

[+] Lemmist@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] guy@piefed.social 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

TIL Russia's war in Ukraine is as bloody as WW2

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago

Not from deaths so much as emigrations and secessions.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 11 points 3 months ago

37 before war.

6 displaced abroad (unhcr)

7 displaced internally.

So around 30 left officially

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And Germany is taking on 1 trillion Euros in new debt to protect against Russia, which is currently spending less on its military than the EU, while fighting a war.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

citation needed.

I've seen the €800b figure but that's the EU as a whole, not Germany on its own

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Germany is currently planning a "whatever it takes" spending plan of 500 billion for infrastructure projects and an equally high, but potentially unlimited amount for defense.
https://www.ft.com/content/ee20978f-bbcd-4616-954c-7749dc5334fd

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago

Over 10 years

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 7 points 3 months ago

So ok, that’s not one trillion.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Paywall so can't see whats written in that ft article. Deutsche Welle says 400bn for defense plus 500bn for infrastructure investment

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is begging. Politicians are using "defence" as a leverage to enpower and enrich themself

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Seeing as I invented this meme I’ll overuse it

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He knew that before Trump's election but didn't make it an issue. He also knows that it implies that Russia will never attack Poland, let alone Poland allied with Europe.

What's the real need for the strengthened military?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

What’s the real need for the strengthened military?

same as it ever was

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Doesn't Russia want to see Nato entirely gone?

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