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Here's their promise to never use forced labour for their cocoa.

There's also the Tony's open chain: a pledge by many companies (not just eu, also us) to use only ethically sourced cocoa. The companies are: here

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[–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I love Tony's, but they're also reportedly higher in lead content than other brands.

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/

Valrhona is a solid non-American brand pick from the list of safer chocolate and they're B-Corp certified. I believe their parents company is French.

When it comes to chocolate you're often forced to pick your poison, so to speak.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is for dark chocolate only, and the article has them listed as one of the lowest lead brands. Crazy that they're all so high though, WTF!

[–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

A fair point! Didn't even occur to me since I only bother with the dark stuff lol

They're the lowest listed of the "high lead content" category. So kind of the best of the worst for it, I suppose.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago

TIL chocolate can have lead...jfc

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking woke BS, ChIlD sLaVeRy. Let the childern work, we need Chocolate!

/s

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the children YEARN for the nestle mines, we NEED that chocolate

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

mines

Everyone knows chocolate is hunted! /s

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

I think chocolate is just the distilled blood and tears of third world children. Wait, that's nestle only? Damn, it must grow on trees then.

[–] Lasagna@lemmy.ml 42 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I was under the impression that Tony’s is working towards a chocolate industry without child labor and forced labor. But the issue is quite complex and they’re not there yet.

Not saying they’re bad. It seems that they’re doing what they can and according to their website they “lead by example”. But I’m not sure if they make any promises about a 100% child labor / forced labor free supply chain at this moment.

The above could be outdated, maybe they’ve achieved their objectives for their own supply chain already. But I can’t find it on their website atm.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 30 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Previously they claimed no slave labor for many years.

They audited their supply chain every year, but eventually found that no matter the claims of their suppliers and auditors, they were finding instances of child labor.

So they’ve updated their stance and are actively working to change the industry

Here’s an article from 2022 covering the issue

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[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it used to say "as little slavery as possible" or something like that but I don't see that written out anymore, just implied.

From the inside of one I just opened:

Also

lead by example

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/

mfw

[–] StarlingDE@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It used to say "slave free" (yes, without a hyphen because apparently they know better than 4 translators) but now it says they try to be as slave free as possible.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

It actually doesn't even say that anymore, it's even more vague now. Thats what I was trying to show with the picture

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[–] durfenstein@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Aside from the activism stuff, Tonys just tastes how good chocolate should taste.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago

I discovered Tony's Chocoloney a few months ago, and I really love it. I can get it at my local supermarket as well. Great to see them on here!

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

As an American: you guys eat American chocolate?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 6 hours ago

That rancid stuff? No ty

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 19 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I mean there is also a big difference between American brands in the US and the EU. Last time I went to the US, I brought back snickers, Twix, and KitKats. Then I bought the EU alternative and set up a double blinded taste test with my friends.

Without fail we all immediately were able to tell them apart. The American version was chalky and tasted like pure sugar. The EU version, albeit also nowhere near Tony quality and still very sweet, was much higher quality and you could taste the individual components of the candy. It was not just a sweet punch in the face.

[–] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I worked in a Nabisco factory a decade ago in the US making Oreo.

They've consistently looked for cost cutting measures to reduce the amount of cocoa powder (expensive input) put into the product. What happened when I was there was they would look for a new vendor that would offer stronger cocoa flavor profile per kg and then use that as a justification to cut the amount of cocoa powder in the product. To mask it they would amp up the sweetness.

In a blind test, a normal people can't tell the difference year to year, but if you compare it to what it was ten years ago, there would be a noticeable difference.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

As to the last paragraph. Totally right that we don't notice the gradual change right away, but I don't think I'm alone in thinking everything just kind of tastes like shit now. Everything. Produce isn't good, meats aren't good, groceries are completely fucked. The entire food industry has been tinkered with by greedy bastards for so long it's just all garbage now.

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[–] Aux@feddit.uk 4 points 13 hours ago
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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I hate that my choices are Expensive, Evil, or Doesn't Taste Good when it comes to so many products.

[–] tab@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

Which applies for you with this brand? I love the taste, but would admit it's a fair chunk of my weekly groceries total.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 23 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Also it's pretty good. I didn't know I liked milk chocolate, because Hershey's is disgusting. Tony's is objectively a better tasting product.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (7 children)

Well there's your problem, in the Netherlands (and other places) Hershey milk 'chocolate' isn't legally chocolate. It needs at least 35% cacao to be called chocolate. It would be called 'Cacao fantasy' here instead. So no wonder you think it's shit chocolate, cause it isn't chocolate to begin with

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

That's like saying "I didn't know I liked olives because faeces from people who have eaten olives is disgusting". Hershey's is widely hated for a reason, it shouldn't be legal to sell.

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[–] kora@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I love Tony's as much as the next guy. However, be aware that a test conducted in 2022 found high levels of lead in Chocolonely Dark Chocolate variant.

Consistent, long-term exposure to even small amounts of heavy metals can lead to a variety of health problems. The danger is greatest for pregnant people and young children because the metals can cause developmental problems, affect brain development, and lead to lower IQ, says Tunde Akinleye, the CR food safety researcher who led this testing project.

[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

FYI: Check if whatever brand you like also works with Tony's for their supply chain. For example Jumbo (NL supermarket) sources their chocolate from Tony's and there's quite a lot more partners.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

As an American this is also what I buy. Good stuff. Support them 💪

[–] bartvbl@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

For Norway: you can buy these at Normal. Much cheaper than getting them shipped.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 15 hours ago

what an abnormal store name lol

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[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

@fxomt found it in my local supermarket too

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Romania, right? I'll add it to the "no shipping required" list, thanks!

[–] weremacaque@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I keep seeing the bars around and I’m very tempted to try it, but I’m allergic lmao. It’ll probably be a lot better than sneaking a Hershey’s though.

Maybe one day they’ll make a carob one.

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