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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Idk how scratch-prone the post-touchbar models are, but I've had a series of MBPs that I've been profoundly uncareful with and never had a problem.

Used a 2009 model until 2016, no scratches. 2016 model that I use to this very day, no scratches. 2017 I used for work until 2019, I ran it across an exposed screw-tip on a broken desk and it left a line you could see if you held it just right to reflect a light, but I can't imagine anything shrugging that off. 2019 model I used for work until a month ago, no scratches.

Meanwhile, the other devices that have coexisted in the same backpack have not done as well. Dented USB hub, dented dock, broken screen on an Android device, shattered screen protector on another device.

Edit: That said, I did just buy a Thinkpad to derp around with NixOS on, so I can compare and report back in a couple of years if anyone wants.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

ThinkPads do scratch, but they are ugly from factory so that no one has to be anxious about it. That's the beauty of it. They also are very prone to collect finger smudges with their strange plastic soft coating. Very hard to clean even with detergent. I would know because I am a freak about keeping my laptop clean, and I can tell you from all the ThinkPads have used in the past 10 years that you will touch them the first time taking them out of the box and they will never look clean ever again.

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[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 147 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I have a pretty recent thinkpad that supposedly has "military grade durability". The plastic is literally falling apart at the corners after 2 years, and my fan grille is gone.

Fucking lenovo

[–] exu@feditown.com 152 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Military grade is bullshit marketing. Basically anything is military grade

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 123 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Military grade is code for "cheapest bidder"

[–] curled@lemm.ee 46 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Military grade means literally nothing. Actual military equipment is "mil spec", and not something the average consumer needs, or can afford, in most cases.

Even when military spec equipment is made by the lowest bidder, this stuff still has to be blast proof, bullet proof, work from -60°C to +85°C, be water/dust resistant, and many other requirements depending on what is being made.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

You can definitely get plenty of Mil spec shit, just not what you really expect. My hat is a Swedish army cap worn by some dude named Albert Kempf in Tunisia circa 1991.

[–] SpendsTimeUsefully@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I was thinking more in the direction of electronics, mechanics, etc

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

I also have a 1960s wire field phone that they would use in Vietnam. I am still trying to figure out how to get it working with an Aux jack.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

I guess aircraft-grade aluminum isn’t good enough anymore.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"Military grade" means that it went through one extra round of inspection before it was sent out as far as I'm aware. This round of inspection is basically just putting it through certain weather conditions to simulate "will this survive a deployment"

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 13 points 11 hours ago

Sounds military grade to me.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Which Thinkpad do you have? The "Thinkpad" line has been expanded to basically all professional grade laptops now.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

the x131e is definitely not professional grade

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

No, none of the X line are. I really like the L line of Thinkpads. Those are still pretty solid and reparable.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sell their product to lenovo?

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

No? They did that.

Sorry, if you were making a joke it flew right over my head, lol

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 9 hours ago

I think it was a joke.

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[–] bigb@lemmy.world 34 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

My MacBook survived after I left it on top of my car as I drove off. It was flung off into a pedestrian area at the first intersection and has a nice dent on the corner.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's so funny to see how macbooks are either super durable, or die from the smallest dust particles. My dad's macbook fell down 3 flights of stairs, and embedded itself into the wood floor boards at the bottom floor. There's not even a scratch on it even though if fell from pretty high up.

And my mother's macbook dies every year because dust ends up in between the display cable which then punctures it when the lid is closed

[–] bigb@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

That's Apple engineering for you: 60 percent of the time it works every time. I grew up with Apple products and the company's history is lined with head-scratching design choices. It's been like that since the Lisa.

I like repairable, self-built desktop PCs myself. But for work, the MacBook has been a tank.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I gave my old macbook air to my kid for Minecraft and he dropped it several times, still just fine with no problems. Also my 10 year old macbook pro still works perfectly fine with a quad core i7 and 16GB RAM for anything I need a laptop to do. Still has the original battery with decent runtime too.

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[–] jef@lemm.ee 44 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Never regretted a purchase more than my macbook after visiting their subreddits.

[–] Sirence@feddit.org 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I got a MacBook for free and I regretted even that. Someone spent money on it, what a waste, even if it wasn't me. I have a refurbished ThinkPad now and I love that one.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's all I'll buy laptop wise. I'd be a fool to buy a new laptop for my use case.

Give me an off lease Thinkpad with no SSD

I'll furnish my own drive and OS.

[–] jef@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

I thought of getting a laptop from tuxedocomputers, the original reason I got a mac was I was fed up with windows, my last laptop was toast, and needed something asap, that i didn't need a time investment to use since uni courses were starting soon. Learning there's a company that makes fair priced, built for linux machines with their own distro, that now seems like the perfect device for me.

The one good thing about macs is they don't loose that much value, so I can resell it and buy something other than a mac

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

ThinkPad is a work tool. MacBook is a fashion statement.

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody cares about thinkpads getting scratched up because the shell shows fingerprints like a motherfucker.

I love my Thinkpads though...namely because I use Linux at home and I'm cheap about laptops...used T-series is probably the best cheap Linux laptop, in general.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

i don't worry about scratching them because they already came scratched used

[–] LouSlash@sh.itjust.works 55 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

MacBook user:

omfg, my MacBook got that big scratch. Gonna buy a new one then

ThinkPad user:

draws ThinkPad logo on the back using scratches

Love it

Essentially average MacBook fan vs average ThinkPad enjoyer

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 28 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Mine is covered in stickers.

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If your Thinkpad isn't covered in stickers, is it really a Thinkpad?

[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

The hot rod flames make it go faster

[–] art@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The stickers hold it together!

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

Structural stickers

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I played GTAV on T-430s

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I have a thinkpad in the late 90s and it still boots up till this day. I added more memory and added an SSD and a fresh set of batteries. This shit just won't die.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 16 points 12 hours ago

The actual IBM ones from before Lenovo bought the company, the fat ones, those were fucking tanks. I remember using them in middle school, they were the best.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 7 points 13 hours ago

Who cares about scratches on the outside?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

11/10, that's so hot! I can fry eggs on it!

[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Eggs too expensive, command aborted

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Think(pad) different.

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