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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26584999

I've decided to make some significant changes in my digital life. I've taken the plunge and am rooting out most US-based services from my usage list. This includes canceling all my streaming subscriptions, putting my Reddit account in cold storage, and deleting my Twitter accounts. Additionally, I'm in the process of removing my presence from Meta platforms. This shift is part of my effort to simplify and re-evaluate my online habits and dependencies.

One of the primary reasons for this change is the importance of bolstering the EU economy. By supporting European companies and services, I believe we can foster innovation and growth within our own region. This not only strengthens our economic independence but also encourages the development of solutions tailored to our specific needs and values.

In my exploration of EU-based alternatives, I've found that while they may be slightly more expensive, they often offer superior technology and usability. The focus on quality, privacy, and user experience in many European products aligns with my personal values and expectations. By investing in these solutions, I'm not only supporting local businesses but also benefiting from advanced and reliable services.

This transition is about more than just personal preference; it's about contributing to a stronger, more self-sufficient European digital landscape. I'm excited to continue discovering and integrating more EU-based services into my daily life.

Despite the costs and effort needed to make this change, I would like to encourage and motivate everyone else considering doing the same. It will undoubtedly be tough for a while, but if we push forward together, it will be better for all of us in the end. Let's support each other in this journey towards a more independent and innovative digital future.

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[–] LinPing1976@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Brave and Firefox shouldn't really be there when there are European alternatives like Vivaldi.

[–] oneandonly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Never used Vivaldi before, how is it? I mainly use Brave on mobile and Firefox on desktop because it automatically blocks YouTube ads and I can watch videos PIP. That's the only reason I haven't made the switch yet.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I'm a slower burn, deciding to move one account at a time to limit the fatigue.

Today was reddit as I noticed it was still my default to open that before Lemmy

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's been such a process for me. And then the double and triple checking that I won't lock myself out of something that I've connected to through Google or Apple.

I went through my google authenticator a few times just to make sure all the 2FA had been switched over to Proton.

In the last few weeks, I've deleted Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Amazon, PayPal, Switch, Reddit, Prime, and iCloud.

Replaced my iPhone with Samsung and de-googled as much as possible. Using Aurora store and 3rd party apps for all the basics. Proton for email, password manager, VPN, etc. Qwant/Vivaldi browsers and search, Here We Go maps.

I replaced pretty much all streaming services with a Plex/Overseer server. Today is the day I delete my Apple account. Goodbye Tim Apple!

I still have my Google account for YouTube access. I'm not sure yet how I can replace it. I noticed that a lot of channels are available in video format on Spotify now, but maybe only like 30% of the stuff I watch.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow, you're smashing it.

My plan is to do the easy stuff to warm up and then try to attack the stuff I'm spending actual money on. The biggies for me will be android and anything my wife has shared interest in such as Sky (aka Comcast). I'm in a long contract with them so time to work on her.

I moved my pension by coincidence from a US money manager to a UK platform, and am totally out of US stocks where I had close to $1m (largely because I'm old and dull) in US tech half a year back.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I do still need to sell my iShares and move over to BMO.

I also deleted my account with Microsoft and Nvidia, so that's Gamepass and GeForce out the window. Boosteroid is an EU alternative cloud gaming platform, which I believe is available in Canada. The only issue I have is that the available games all seem to require Steam. If it's not available on PSN, Nintendo, GoG, or physically; I'm not buying it.

I feel like I might have made a mistake moving from iPhone to Samsung/Android. I went with the Samsung Flip 6, and I'm not sure if I can switch OS. I have turned off and replaced all Google services, but i believe they are still lurking in the background. I'm not sure what else I can do.

I would love to know if there's an alternative to Mastercard or Visa.

[–] BevsDad@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

It's a real challenge when I use Boost for both. But I quickly catch on when I notice the post quality going to shit.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How can I move from WhatsApp to any other messaging app, if people I chat with don’t use any other app than WhatsApp? Serious question. I would love to ditch WhatsApp, but it seems like impossible task.

[–] rfr_Foglia@feddit.it 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

We need some laws that make companies expose messaging apps APIs so that a third party open source app that talks to all the different messaging services can finally emerge.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Tired of apps. I want more protocols. Fuck 'facebook messenger' it's just a protocol with a GUI, gimme your protocol.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes, that would be awesome.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 14 points 5 hours ago

BlueSky is US-based and not really decentralised. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky

Prefer Mastodon and other fediverse services.

[–] oakward@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

Why not suggest Aptoide as an app store?

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 21 points 7 hours ago

I like how they've gone straight to piracy for streaming.

[–] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

As alternative to WhatsApp, there is also ArcaneChat that is more user-friendly for normies: https://arcanechat.me/

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Too bad it doesn't have an iphone download available.

[–] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

for iOS and desktop you can use Delta Chat which is fully compatible with ArcaneChat

[–] Tzeentch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

Its just a deltachat client, so can use a different one and still talk with arcanechat users: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/delta-chat/id1459523234

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

because it is a centralized service from US company, registration requires phone numbers so it is easy to know from what country you are, the server is running in Amazon Web Services, etc, while ArcaneChat can be used with your own infrastructure, for total technological sovereignty

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I think because they're located on the US.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

I've made similar changes....but I've stopped recommending these to people. Almost everything here takes plenty of knowhow and setup effort. Good to have a reference like this....but this is not for normies.

Also, Lemmy tends to shoot on sight at the mention of Brave. Lemmy hivemind is close to doing the same with Firefox.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 2 minutes ago

We only shoot Brave on sight because there are a myriad of reasons why Brave (which is just another crappy chromium browser) is a very bad browser. I’ve given a few links just a week ago that goes into great detail on why it is a shitty browser run by a shady corpo. Let me know if you’d like to read them, and I’ll gladly share them here in an EDIT. :)

[–] three@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Lemmy tends to shoot on sight at the mention of Brave.

And for good reason.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like there are quite a few normie-friendly alternatives out there... But generally speaking, I've gotta agree.

However, I do think we could take it upon ourselves to help! It might be hard to set up, but it's worth it. I say: keep recommending it, but make yourself more available to guide and aid people less knowledgeable than yourself.

If you're willing, of course.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My mission has been to get people to at least use a password manager like Bitwarden. I've been unsuccessful for years and am stuck recovering accounts for everyone. You have to understand just how little normies are willing to do.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...They can't use a password manager?!

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

They could learn......but they won't.

I've managed to get my wife to use Bitwarden through brute force, i.e. when I recover any account for her I refuse to let he input a new password without putting it in her Bitwarden first. Only to find out when she changed device that she doesn't remember her Bitwarden password and only ever used the fingerprint on her phone.

My parents are the other people I provide tech support for. They'd rather just say they'll ask me to recover their account again rather than use Bitwarden. If I try to force them to use it I have to teach them how to use it again every time (which icon was it? What was my password for this? How do I input the account details you've got now?).

My wife and parents don't remember the password for their main google account on their android and gmail. Any time a password prompt comes up for anything they ask me "so should I put in my Google password here?" 🤦‍♂️

People at work have realised I'm "techsavy" and ask me stuff. They won't use Bitwarden either. They've all got pieces of paper on their desks with their passwords for secure work systems.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

You depress me. I have no comments.

[–] kauraaaa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Stremio just a torrent client with integrated videoplayer and search? Kind of odd suggesting it as an alternative to legit services. Might get some less knowledgable people bonked with fines.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

These people use every opportunity to post about piracy. They think it's their mission to convert everyone to do piracy. No idea why.

[–] ugh@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I'm a huge advocate for switching to FOSS, but you're being disingenuous by portraying it as supporting the EU. You're boycotting US companies. I do the same for the benefit of privacy, frugality, and, honestly, fun. FOSS isn't for most people, though.

I have heard that Nextcloud is pretty buggy. Libre Office is a Microsoft Office replacement, which is mainly the function of Nextcloud.

Home Assistant has a pretty steep learning curve, but totally worth it in the end. The voice assistant software is still in its early stages, same with cellphone software.

I love that you're spreading awareness, but I wanted to warn others. There are many lists of FOSS alternatives out there!

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Stremio is illegal (piracy). Don't use it!

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

I've switched away from google to https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite

1.91 Euro/m for 1 Terabyte of storage, and it's hosted and operated from Switzerland

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gigameister@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Thank you!!

[–] UraniumForBreakfast@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Don’t mind me, just a fed up US citizen looking for ways to stop supporting large corporations where possible.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I've been using some of these for years, already. Most certainly Firefox and Stremio.