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[–] hertg@infosec.pub 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"A film like Wall-E exemplifies what Robert Pfaller has called 'interpassivity': the film performs our anti-capitalism for us, allowing us to continue to consume with impunity. The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does, but to conceal the fact that the operations of capital do not depend on any sort of subjectively assumed belief. It is impossible to conceive of fascism or Stalinism without propaganda - capitalism can proceed perfectly well, in some ways better, without anyone making a case for it."

-- Capitalist Realism, Mark Fisher

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[–] Offandonandoffagain@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Create a problem then sell the solution. Simple as

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sell the revolution.

How much would people pay for communism, how much for other forms of government?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If a system needs constant growth to survive it will eventually collapse.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finally YOLO makes sense. Yes, capitalism indeed only lives once. It will have its lifetime, and then it will collapse and be done with. It will not come back, it will not be reborn.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So long as we stick with our distinctions of "Mine" and "Thine", we will fall into a different sort of capitalism later down the road. In order to keep it away we need to stop looking at wealth as a virtue, but as something to give away.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Infinite growth in a finite system is the definition of cancer. And like a cancer it will keep poisoning us, and must be cut out and eradicated.

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[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When you commodify all the people’s wants and needs, you commodify the people.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What are we to them capitalists but (wage) slaves?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Or, to look at it the other way round:

When you commodify people, you will commodify all their wants and needs.

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[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

How do you fight against it?

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On a larger scale? Through organizing and engaging in communities, politics and unions. No one can stop it alone.

On a personal scale?
Stop consuming more than you need. Maintain what you already own. Don't buy it because it's better than what you have, if what you have is already good enough. Buy second hand when you can. Lend and loan with friends when it comes to seldomly used tools.

Buy maintainable stuff instead of the cheap copy that has no repairability (Think of the boots theory and don't get tricked into spending more in the long term just to spend less now).

And the hardest bit would be to stop comparing yourself and your life with that of those around you, I think that the rat race is the main driver of consumption together with all that wealth peacocking.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well put! And please go vegan. Exploiting and murdering sentient beings by the billions in an industry too gruesome to look at because you are accustomed to a taste is peak capitalist cynicism.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

I rely too much on meat for protein with my autoimmune disease (can't eat a lot of plant-based proteins). That being said, the moment they start padding ground meat with bugmeal, or better yet lab grown meat, hits store shelves I'll be happy to pay extra for that.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My personal take:
No thanks! is the most powerful thing you can say. Don't engage, stop buying endless toys and distractions, build a local community, hang out with real people in reality, share stuff and be kind. Maybe blow up a pipeline too.

Edit: I didn't see the comment below, it's much better!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

depends on where you live

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I became comfort not owning things

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jokes on you, capitalism made you not want things!

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When capitalism has commodified everything, then all ingrediences for a revolution can be bought.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

See how in the US we wait to potty train until 3,4,5 years old, while most other countries potty train earlier. Gotta sell those pull-ups!

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

What? No we don't.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who does that? Most kids are potty trained by 3

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most, but the age has been steadily raising since the introduction of disposable diapers.

Many other countries have their kids potty trained by six months, as we used to.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

i see 18 months, not 3 years.

6 months is absurd. Do you have children?

0% at 4 years; so I’m curious where “3,4,5” came from.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

His claim was about the age at which potty training was successfully completed. Your chart is about the age at which potty training started. They're not comparable unless you provide some additional data about how long the training takes.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Oh i know so many people who are into vanity. Everything goes as long as there's no point in it.

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