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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

So FramaSoft is not a thing ?? It's French

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 20 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

[–] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 44 points 11 hours ago

Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

[–] SaraTonin@lemm.ee 35 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

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[–] azalty@jlai.lu 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

A bit of both I guess

Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago

I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 106 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 36 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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[–] Tramort@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago

Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 14 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yea I’m not a fan of helm either. In fact, I avoid charts when possible. But kustomize is great.

I feel the same way about docker compose. If it wasn’t already obvious, I’m biased in favor of k8s. I like and prefer that interface. But that’s just preference. If you like docker compose, great!

There’s one point where I do disagree however. There are scenarios where a local k8s cluster has a good and clear purpose. If your production environment runs on k8s, then it’s best to mirror that locally as much as possible. In fact, there are many apps that even require a k8s api to run. Plus, being able to destroy and rebuild your entire k8s cluster in 30s is wonderful for local testing.

Edit: typos

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I won't argue with the ups and downs of each technos, but I recently looked into docker swarms and it was all I expected kubernetes to be, without the hassle. And I could also get a full cluster with services restored from scratch in 30s. But I am obviously biased towards it, too :)

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[–] Metju@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you're in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

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[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 46 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with libre?

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 25 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don't have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

[–] ulair@lemmy.world 45 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Well this has been running in our Nextcloud and works pretty well collaboratively :) https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online not sure how it scales, but definitely an alternative that can be built on

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 56 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck :( Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 33 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yes, that's excellent. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

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