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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

It hasn't been that hard in my experience. Ignore shifts in the social landscape until the yung'ins reach a consensus about it, and always remember that time just before the dotcom crash when a company got venture funding to deliver tuna subs by mail.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 102 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

I understand that crypto is a scam that will rob millions of people of money they desperately need.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

See, this guy gets it

[–] courageousstep@lemm.ee 24 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

But what you said there is literally the end of my understanding of what crypto is. It has something to do with computers solving math problems, and somehow that’s worth money.

What?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

No, that's basically it.

The reason for all this work is basically the concept of a currency that isn't backed by and dependent upon governments while also being impossible to counterfeit, hence a lot of encryption because it fundamentally says that you can't trust the other computers that you're talking to. Everybody holds a ledger that says that you have $5, so you can't suddenly say that you actually have $10. And all the math is to prevent inflation by limiting the amount of currency that exists at any time. The more currency there is from solving the math, the harder the math gets to slow down the creation of new money.

It all falls apart, though, because the only value that crypto has is what it's worth in traditional fiat currency - the very thing that it's supposed to replace.

So it's just a bunch of computers doing a lot of math to make funny money that's supposedly worth something because...of reasons?

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

the problem with crypto is that when you try to explain it, it sounds so stupid that someone else thinks you have to be explaining it wrong

but if you want explanation, this one is fine https://ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/bitcoin/2020-12-31-bitcoin-ponzi.html and this https://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/bitcoin/2021-01-16-yes-ponzi.html

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

So the same as most currency that isn't backed by actual valuables? Like the US dollar after it stopped being backed by gold like 100 years ago?

Crypto is a world currency that people have assigned value to. Pretty much all other money is a currency that individual countries have assigned a value to. Both types can be just as worthless. Hyper inflation has made money from many countries worth less than a roll of toilet paper to wipe your ass with. For that matter, the US dollar could buy you 30 rolls of toilet paper 75 years ago. Now it can only buy you like 1 roll.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

When I think of crypto I think of that bloke grubbing through landfill for a lost hard drive. I think of Sam Bankman Fried. I think of Trump's meme coin. Yes, I'm sure someone must be explaining it wrong to this old lady.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's a speculative asset that fluctuates based on the whims of billionaire hedge funds and early crypto investors. There is zero value in owning it unless you got in early enough. And even then it's a situation of the last man holding the bag. Someone will end up losing their asses.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

On average the value of any crypto token is less than 0 because of the high cost to produce and transfer them. Ironically it seems people find the most wasteful tokens more valuable. "It's hard to make so it must be valuable" or some such nonsense.

[–] derek@infosec.pub 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Fiat currency is just as silly. As is all money, really.

"I trade numbers for food. The numbers are accessible via a magnetic strip on some plastic in my pocket." or "I trade paper for clothing but the number of papers isn't as important as the number printed ON the papers." Both of these realities are absurd. :)

As a store of value representing labor rendered: neither of those are terrible systems and most people don't understand either of them anyway. Fiat seems "normal" because we grew up with it. That said: I'm no apologist. Popular crypto currencies offer little novelty for the layperson, no true improvement on the concept of currency generally, and cost orders of magnitude more to maintain their required infrastructure. I fail to see the appeal.

There are some projects which focus on the practical utility of decentralized currency (I remember thinking Nano (wikipedia.com) was cool back in the day) but they don't get the same kind of attention as meme coins because they can't be abused as easily. I've heard stories of these kinds of tools facilitating commerce in places where the local currency collapsed. Neat as that may be it isn't revolutionary... Still more convenient than bartering via cigarette though.

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[–] jagermo@feddit.org 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think there is one legal use case that can only be solved by a blockchain and not cheaper and faster with a classic database.

Except money laundering, crapto is fantastic for that.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

I am sure scamming people out of their money with crypto is legal in a few jurisdictions.

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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Cryptocurrency or cryptography?

The former you don’t really need to understand fully to use, but the latter is vital and indeed brain-melting.

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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

As an elder millennial, I respect gen z and alpha for coping with modern society. It may just be a fond remembrance, but things seemed much simpler then. Creative jobs weren't threatened by AI, the tech didn't exist for corporations to spy on people, the US.. well let's not get into that.

I at least got to experience a decent time in history and built up enough context where I understand what is going on in the world today. That of course leads to irreconcilable sadness with where things are going, but at least I got to experience a wild culture shift.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago

When I was a kid I always was amazed at things like my grandparents going from no electricity to microwave ovens and VCRs. I often wondered about huge cultural shifts and what that was like, going from preindustrial production to industrial or major shifts in religion that affected whole societies. Now I am experiencing it and it's very uneasy but exciting at the same time. Weirdness.

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[–] Chef_Boyargee@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why you gotta do me dirty like that?

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[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not that brain-melting. Taken one day at a time, the shift was very gradual.

[–] epyon22@programming.dev 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Bitcoin was introduced in 2008 it's only been -8 years plenty of time to understand

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

2008 it’s only been -8 years plenty of time to understand

watch out in about 4 years, stock up on masks and alcohol.

Drinking or cleaning alcohol

Yes.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 23 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

1971 here, I must be your great grampa.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh. Yes. Yes you are. Look after your back. You only get one.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh. My. God. Becky look at her....

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, let’s see you write a new autoexec.bat file with whatever text editor came on a DOS3.2 floppy that’s infected the the Stoned virus after you stupidly deleted autoexec.bat from your 386 by going to the library and checking out some books.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Umm the rest of us has to write it own autoexec.bat, not because we were idiots that deleted stuff or got viruses, but to change the keyboard language and a few other things to have enough memory to play Doom.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

And then put that autoexec.bat on a bootable floppy disk you needed to research how to make yourself, fucking around with EMS and XMS settings to have enough memory to play.

Figuring out how to get games to play as a teenager is what launched my career in IT.

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[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

8th grade teacher got pissed at us on 9/11 because he thought we were laughing at the fact that a plane had hit the WTC. We were laughing because one of the girls didn't know what the WTC was. We turned on the TVs to see the second one get hit.

6th grade we had napster while some of us were still bringing in cases of floppies to play games that'd run on the computers

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

4th grade for me, so barely old enough to understand the significance, but definitely old enough to remember airports without TSA, and being able to go all the way to the gate with whomever was flying.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

When I was a kid, Commander Data from Star Trek TNG was the height of technological possibility. TNG was set in the 2300s.

It looks like hard drives are selling for about 20 bucks a terabyte now. Commander Data had a storage capacity of 100 petabytes.

So today, to buy hard drives equivalent to the capacity Commander Data would cost about $2 million. You would have to be very wealthy to afford that as an individual, but the cost will only get lower. It will still be quite awhile before a random laptop will have a Commander Data's worth of storage space. But you're talking decades, not centuries.

Though, this calculation is for the Data that appeared in the original TNG run. His more recent appearance in Star Trek Picard may be different, as his specifications there may canonically differ.

This calculation was only meant to detail the capacity of the original Commander Data, not the more recent Big Data.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

If only the pace of technology was the only paradigm shift to have to worry about since the 80s/90s

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 11 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

The elders had to rewind the movies after watching

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