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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] green@feddit.nl 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Can we stop talking about "we should, we should"? Who is actually doing?

The time for talk was over November 4th, but it is beyond over now - arm yourself, period.

Where are the community resources for community building and fighting against ICE tactics - this is what the internet is for? Who is running the underground railroad? Why are every single one of us not educated on TOR and VPNs? Who are we primarying? What are the plans for removing propaganda from our real life communities?

There are no accessible answers to these questions - this is unacceptable, and we get this in order now. No one is coming to save us, we must do it ourselves. We have a 2 month window between now and when the most in-person activity will happen (summer).

P.S. Everyone screams at the gun owners and politicians about why they won't do anything. But why would they? They'll basically throw their lives away for nothing - especially when the people they claim to fight for are so fucking spineless.

If this woman can have her First Amendment RIGHT stripped and arrested in the street by plain clothes, and every single person in this country isn't rioting, guns and laws will not fix it.

P.S P.S If you are not from America and are in a relatively free country, one of the best things you can do is host the resources for fighting the Nazis. American companies, individuals, and organization are automatically compromised.

If are an American, create an onion service or host using an EU VPS and domain registar.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Our inner child will refuse to believe this, but history has shown us that fascists cannot be stopped peacefully.

Concealed carry might be our only real defense in the future

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe but One gun vs. 10 isn't gonna do much. Needs to be combined with community organization. Get to know your neighbors and look out for and protect those likely to be targeted next. Organize your workplace and protect your coworkers from ICE. If you don't speak up there will be no one to speak up for you when it's your turn.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The government revoked Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration.

"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tufts-students-visa-revoked-due-activism-rubio/story?id=120226954

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 24 points 6 days ago

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago (2 children)

“We’re the police relax” says the gestapo mother fucker disappearing people

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[–] Joeyfingis@lemmy.world 81 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 134 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Type of shit they tell you to expect in China, except its the USA

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago (13 children)

It's the kind of thing that happened in Nazi Germany.

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[–] garlicbread420@lemm.ee 122 points 6 days ago (3 children)

AP's article mentions that Ozturk was posted on this website, https://canarymission.org/

After the op-ed was published, Ozturk’s name, photograph and work history were published on the website Canary Mission, which describes itself as documenting people who “promote hatred of the U.S.A., Israel and Jews on North American college campuses.”

'Tis a spooky place. No names, none of the articles have bylines, contact is just a webform, domain registration is anonymized, donation link is being washed thru some company called RTech Digital Marketing out of India.

Really got me wondering, who the fuck are these people and why do they seem to have ICE's ear.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Remember the outrage when stuff like that happens in China?
Ever since living there a few years back, I keep saying how your two countries are so fucking similar, and it getting truer every day.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I lived there 10 years ago and it felt entirely different at the time. Chinese people were afraid to discuss certain topics in public, which was not the case in the USA at that time, but yes, times have changed and it is becoming increasingly similar in the US.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Chinese people were afraid to discuss certain topics in public, which was not the case in the USA at that time,

Try talking about unionizing at work and see how people react. Americans are terrified of discussing critical issues in places where it matters the most.

Companies having the ability to destroy your life for having the wrong opinion is just as bad as a state doing it.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago (5 children)

This is horrifying. This person broke no laws. If Trump is doing this to valid green card holders for exercising their first amendment rights, then we are one degree of separation from Trump doing this to U.S. citizens who criticize him.

It's only going to continue getting worse. Make an exit plan if you haven't already.

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[–] InstructionsNotClear@midwest.social 77 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Did we just watch a woman get abducted by sex traffickers?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 29 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Assuming they're federal agents, then yes.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Most Americans: Yeah but it didn't happen to me.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is inexcusable. Permanent residents of this country are historically entitled to the first amendment.

If they can change that precedent, then there's little standing in the way of anyone else.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 76 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Legally speaking if some one interfered or resisted wouldn't they be justified? No clear sign they are the law and they refuse to identify themselves

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 62 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

A legal defense can easily be mounted. If they did not identify themselves as police officers, or had any proof of being police, you are clear to use lethal force. The victim had all right to believe that they are a victim of first degree kidnapping, a crime with a punishment that is 2nd only to 1st degree murder in US law.

Their conduct is not one you would expect of law enforcement. So I will say it. Shoot. Shoot to kill.

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[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (4 children)

how about who cares? we have to take a stand for humanity at some point, the law be damned

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's terrifying. That is absolutely terrifying. Unidentified, masked people in all black kidnapping people right off the street in unmarked cars.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 66 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This is a fantastic way to get cops shot and killed in the street. Please, PLEASE try this shit in Oakland or Los Angeles I am begging you.

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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 56 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We've become so complacent. A unified community would have intervened, violently if necessary. I would love nothing more than to see a crowd of folks popping out of houses and cars and surrounding these terrorists at gunpoint.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This happened in my country in 2021: https://youtu.be/ZZcoXdZeabA No guns involved, just a load of people prepared to stand around all day blocking the vans.

Get yourselves organised.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile Rubio is proudly bragging about revoking student visas entirely for pro-Palestinian speech. Marco Rubio is not the voice of reason in the white house, he's an enemy of the Constitution.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

This is the very definition of terrorism:
"Terrorism is the calculated use of violence to create fear and achieve political goals, often targeting civilians...."

[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

For many years I was against punching nazis. It was time for debate. I am still against punching peaceful protestors.

But secret police deserve more than a punch.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wtf I thought it was news overblown at first I can't fucking believe the US government is doing this in middle of the day, can't they Atleast try to disguise it as criminal activity?

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago

The exact thing they used to say China did!

[–] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

So they're revoking student visas without telling the students?

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder if it would be a good idea to take down my "Hate has no home here" flag, that is prominently displayed in my yard.

We live in a very diverse neighborhood, and I'm happy to have this flag up. But I don't need any billy-jackoffs coming around causing a fuss, or worse.

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[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So... What happens if there aren't cameras where the political abduction occurs? The government can just wait a few weeks then sell them to El Salvador and let their friends and family believe they are missing?

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Maybe we need to start a fund to reward any bystanders that attempt to intervene in a safe manner. They could do things like ask for badge numbers, take videos, ask for the warrant, and just generally get in the way. Maybe stand infront of the vehicle that the person is put in to slow down the progress.
Maybe we need a app that will notify people that something is happening so they can flood the area even more with people who will stand in front of the vehicle.

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