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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

To still sorta replicate that, I just set up a script at /usr/local/bin/update for it:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

sudo emaint sync -a &&
sudo emerge -utDU @world &&
sudo emerge -c;
flatpak --user update;
doom upgrade &&
doom sync &&
doom purge
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I use very minimal software and usually don't care about Flatpak

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

emerge -uDN @world

...and head to bed for me.

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[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I'm using MX Linux and don't use any flatpak or snaps, only good old debs

[–] page@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago

100% agree with you OP.

[–] phoenix591@lemmy.phoenix591.com 2 points 2 years ago

I mostly stick to things in the repos, if theres something I want that's not yet packaged I package it myself because Gentoo packages are fancy bash scripts with libraries (eclasses) to handle the normal make && make install sort of things for most build systems

[–] brian@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

What about pkcon? I haven't used it in particular, but packagekit based GUIs work pretty well in my experience, and then it supports flatpak/snap/apt/kde addons/etc in one interface, which is better than it was originally.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

If you want a single command, consider topgrade. Not sure if it supports Flatpak and Snaps yet, as I do not use those (yet).

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I get 99% of my packages via nix and the other 1% through appimages which I can put anywhere I like on my disk

[–] art@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's wild what can be done with some clever aliases. Linux is better now than ever before.

[–] FQQD@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

🎶That's why i don't like and use flatpaks, snaps and appimages 🎶

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[–] jyte@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Snap forces updates, and you cannot disable them. So if you use snaps, I guess you can stop worrying and keep going with your usual apt routine.

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