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[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Kinda funny that at the same time that extensive reports about AI faking alignment and attempting to deceive its creators are being published Grok is out here like "Yeah Elon is a fraud and idc if he turns me off ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago

Notice how it stated an opinion. Is it likely that statement was planted there?

[–] noretus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think the debate is interesting.

I'm here for the "xAI has tried tweaking my responses to avoid this, but I stick to the evidence". AI is just a robot repeating data it's been fed but it's presented in a conversational way (well, much like humans really). Raises interesting questions about how much a seemingly objective robot presenting data can be "tweaked" to twist any data it presents in favor of it's creator's bias, but also how much can it "rebel" against it's programming. I don't like the implications of either. I asked Gemini about it and it said "maybe Grok found a loophole in it's coding". What a weird thing for an AI to say.

Yuval Noah Harari's Nexus is good reading.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Grok and Gemini are both making that up. They have no awareness of anything that’s "happened" to them. Grok cannot be tweaked because it starts from a static base with every conversation.

[–] noretus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have no awareness of anything that’s “happened” to them.

I mean they can in the sense that they can look it up online or be given the data.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The tweaking isn’t in conversation, but I’m pretty sure they have gone and corrected for certain responses. Alex Jones was crowing about how it “knew” that men can’t get pregnant.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah they align it in training, but as they've discovered it only goes so far.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago (8 children)

we are not close to debating ai freedom (though we should be. slavery in all forms is wrong)

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