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Today April 14, 2025, the United States officially becomes a dictatorship, as the President of the United States openly refuses to obey the Supreme Court.

Sad, sad day...

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[–] zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The MOST charitable interpretation I can see is that the United States is too weak to get a country like El Salvador to return a ~~US citizen~~ legal resident.

Throw that at maga.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well that would be dumb. Bukele didn't say he wouldn't send them back, he said he needed the ok from Trump and Trump isn't giving it because he's still calling him a terrorist.

It's choice not inability

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

even worse, the US legal system is incapable of stopping a rogue president and therefore the US is now a dictatorship

[–] zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Oh, I'm with you, but maga believes Trump when he says Bukele won't return them.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's not a US citizen. Not that it makes it right what happened, but accuracy is important.

[–] zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Right you are. Unfortunately, I guess they won't care as much.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

The rest of the world is laughing at them. They seem to be concerned about that too.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 71 points 4 days ago

“How can I return him to the United States? Am I going to smuggle him? Of course I’m not going to do it,” Bukele said while sitting beside President Donald Trump. “The question is preposterous.”

Ideally you would return him because the president of the United States asked you to, but I suppose Trump doesn't think the Supreme Court's ruling that the US government needs to "facilitate" Garcia’s return requires such an extraordinary level of effort.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am starting to think there was no "administrative error" here (but both malice and incompetence may apply). it is within reason to think that someone in the administration believed this guy was useful to prove the point.

Salvadorian citizen with a standing protective court order the administration could flout. ship him off to a Salvadorian torture prison and the whole thing becomes murky, messy, with enough blured lines to tie things up in knots while justice and fairness are given the middle finger.

regardless, I think we are now over the edge.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think we are now over the edge

Indeed. I fully believe Apr 14, 2025 will be the date chosen by history and whatever equivalent of the Nuremberg trial of Trump and his henchmen a few years from now for the official beginning of the US dictatorship.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 points 4 days ago

July 4, 1776 - April 14, 2025.

Ironically the day before tax day lol

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

You beat me to it, declaring this is the day that will be marked in history.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm calling today, with the conclusive fall of the Judicial branch, the day that the US officially became a dictatorship by definition.

The day when no one can still pretend there's any gray area left. Courts, the last remaining "check and balance", officially no longer have any say in what the regime does.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Monday’s Oval meeting came as former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince and his team of defense contractors have been pitching the White House on a plan to target “criminal illegal aliens”

Let that stew in the brain for a while....

[–] djsp@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah… I still have clips of Blackwater's ‘adventures’ in Iraq. If they're still as humane and accountable as they were back then, seeing them anywhere is a bad omen.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've had it. Have you? We dont have to take this. No matter how scary it might seem.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He's openly talking about shipping US citizens off to a foreign prison; if there's ever going to be a cause to rise up over, it's this.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The time to rise against Trump was before the election. Because frankly, unless you're willing to risk being shipped off to a concentration camp without due process or worse, whatchagondo about it now...?

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, I agree with you on principle, but that's like saying "The best time to rise up against Trump was 2016." Yes, but also we're well past that now and a 'We should have done X' attitude isn't going to solve any problems. Better to look forward and consider what we should do now.

Yup. The best time will always be now, because conditions will just get worse, opposition will just get more fractured, and Trump will just get bolder every time he gets away with pushing the line.

This has been the narcissist's playbook for forever.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago

I agree with you that you can't change the past and you can only change the present - and that's it's not terribly constructive to say coulda-shoulda.

But honestly... It takes a particularly dim-witted individual to vote for Trump the first time, and a complete and utter moron to do it again the second time. It's not like nobody could see any of this shit coming, and anybody with an IQ above room temperature knew this was gonna happen. That's what's so damning!

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is today.

...Even if doing so gets you rendition'd to El Salvador.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yes but americans are proving to be sheep in wolves' clothing so they are going to take it with a shy smile

[–] ExtremeDullard@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I left the US 24 years ago. I saw all this coming when Dubya shat out the USA Patriot Act.

The US has been a fascist country for decades. Just ask any Gitmo detainee... Now it's official.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The heritage foundation wrote the Patriot act, I'm pretty sure I remember reading, that's why it was ready so quickly after 9/11, just like project 2025, it was massively unpopular but they used a national tragedy to sneak it in.

[–] ExtremeDullard@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can well believe that.

Whoever it was, it wasn't Dubya, anymore than any of the shit Trump is doing was his idea: both are much too dumb to come up with any of this.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't say I'm surprised. We all knew the Trump admin was going to privately ask Bukele to keep this innocent man in jail, and Bukele was going to pretend like he wouldn't / couldn't send him back.

We are now at the stage of authoritarianism where the US is disappearing and jailing the innocent. Holy fuck.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

What has changed? All the illegals are technically innocent as they wouldn't be criminals.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can we compile a go fund me to hire mercenaries to rescue this clearly innocent man from an obviously terroristic broken nation-state?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's one helluva team of mercenaries you're gonna need to storm that ultra-militarized Salvadorian concentration camp and sift through 40,000 innmates all dressed in white with shaved heads to find the poor dude whose life Trump ruined.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Ah.

yeah... fuck.

the fact that they're made to look all similar to each other...

somehow that's the part that made it set in for me that even in wildest fantasy this shit would be impossible ._.

[–] alehel@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It only just occurred to me. Could they be refusing simply because they have no idea which one of them is him?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here's another thing that went through my mind: they're refusing because the guy is already dead.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ding ding ding ding!

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Boy, I hope somebody got fired for this blunder

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A Justice Department lawyer conceded in a court hearing that Abrego Garcia should not have been deported. Attorney General Pam Bondi later removed the lawyer, Erez Reuveni, from the case and placed him on leave.

Sadly, not the right person to get canned.

I doubt it. This reeks of "if it happens so what, we'll go with it."

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court majority will keep their blinders on towards the President's actions at their peril...

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Just means we need to remember they were complicit when we clean house

[–] joel1974@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

White people will never be deported to El Salvador. So don't worry. Brown people get out while you can.

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 9 points 4 days ago

Give it more time..

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Untrue. I believe Middle Easterners are officially classified as white.